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HOF QB’s equals Super Bowls?

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5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

You took out Brady, both Manning’s, and Ben R. Off a claim of HOF QBs(one is in) with questions about those. Is Brady and the others not just as much “HOFers” as those you listed. Or did they just ruin your theory which is still hard to follow. 

Both Manning’s and Ben R have 2 SB ea over 20 years each or 60 years combined.  Point proven.

 

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2 minutes ago, Dog Runner said:

Both Manning’s and Ben R have 2 SB ea over 20 years each or 60 years combined.  Point proven.

 

None played 20 years. Less than 50 combined. Peyton had 3. Ben had 3. Brady had 10. He not a HOFer. 
 

   How many QBs started a SB that you don’t consider HOF. Since the criteria is whatever you can make up, maybe we can compare the differences in the two and really take care of your point. 

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13 minutes ago, Toomers said:

None played 20 years. Less than 50 combined. Peyton had 3. Ben had 3. Brady had 10. He not a HOFer. 
 

   How many QBs started a SB that you don’t consider HOF. Since the criteria is whatever you can make up, maybe we can compare the differences in the two and really take care of your point. 

 

13 minutes ago, Toomers said:

None played 20 years. Less than 50 combined. Peyton had 3. Ben had 3. Brady had 10. He not a HOFer. 
 

   How many QBs started a SB that you don’t consider HOF. Since the criteria is whatever you can make up, maybe we can compare the differences in the two and really take care of your point. 

Brady was not a 1st rounder and NE didn’t trade 3-4 1st rounders to get him.  He is an outlier.  

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6 minutes ago, Dog Runner said:

 

Brady was not a 1st rounder and NE didn’t trade 3-4 1st rounders to get him.  He is an outlier.  

 Neither were Wilson, Farve, Brees. When did that become part of it? No mention of where drafted until now. What’s next? 83577EFA-5E9B-45DD-B8A4-027D850A4B8F.jpeg.4283dac1a599b0bac57b463fc7b6eaa7.jpeg

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5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Neither were Wilson, Farve, Brees. When did that become part of it? No mention of where drafted until now. What’s next? 83577EFA-5E9B-45DD-B8A4-027D850A4B8F.jpeg.4283dac1a599b0bac57b463fc7b6eaa7.jpeg

You prove my point.  Top 10 draft picks of QB’s is no guarantee.  Don’t give away multiple 1st round draft picks for an unproven QB.

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4 minutes ago, Dog Runner said:

Can you name me 1st round QB’s with multiple SB appearances in the last 15 years?  

CAn you show me where this was part of your ridiculous point to begin with? 
 

Eli(2), Peyton(3), Ben(3), Rodgers, Cam, Grossman, Flacco, Ryan, Goff, Mahomes. Why is a QB who retired in 1999 on that original list. Maybe you should just move on to your next alt because you have ruined this one out of the gate. 

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CAn you show me where this was part of your ridiculous point to begin with? 
 

Eli(2), Peyton(3), Ben(3), Rodgers, Cam, Grossman, Flacco, Ryan, Goff, Mahomes. Why is a QB who retired in 1999 on that original list. Maybe you should just move on to your next alt because you have ruined this one out of the gate. 

 

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

CAn you show me where this was part of your ridiculous point to begin with? 
 

Eli(2), Peyton(3), Ben(3), Rodgers, Cam, Grossman, Flacco, Ryan, Goff, Mahomes. Why is a QB who retired in 1999 on that original list. Maybe you should just move on to your next alt because you have ruined this one out of the gate. 

Point is that HOF QB’s only go to SB 1 time out of 15-20 years on average.  We don’t need to give away 3-4 first round picks to get QB since it is no guarantee

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Point is that HOF QB’s only go to SB 1 time out of 15-20 years on average.  We don’t need to give away 3-4 first round picks to get QB since it is no guarantee

If that’s your point, you failed miserably. Last 20 SBs. 40 spots. 
 

  B. Johnson, R Gannon, Delhomme, McNabb, Hasselbeck, Grossman, Kaepermick, Flacco, Foles, Goff. That’s 10 out of 40 non HOFers. That’s 75% of places occupied by an HOF QB.  And only 3 won. 

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8 hours ago, Dog Runner said:

You prove my point.  Top 10 draft picks of QB’s is no guarantee.  Don’t give away multiple 1st round draft picks for an unproven QB.

All draft picks are unproven in the NFL until they actually prove that they can play with the big boys.

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9 hours ago, Toomers said:

You took out Brady, both Manning’s, and Ben R. Off a claim of HOF QBs(one is in) with questions about those. Is Brady and the others not just as much “HOFers” as those you listed. Or did they just ruin your theory which is still hard to follow. 

He also left off Terry,Bradshaw, Rodger Staubach, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Didn't John Elway make 2?

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11 hours ago, Dog Runner said:

Be glad to if you take 7th round draft choice Brady out of the equation.  He is definitely an outlier if you understand the term

He’s still a HOF QB, and you were claiming that QBs aren’t that important, not anything about where they were drafted

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