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Updated Vegas Odds to land Fields


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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

I will be honest--I want to see what Darnold can do and if Fields is there, I want NE to send me 2 firsts and a second or so to swap.  I think we compete in 2021 with a T and CB and maybe a WR---not 2 qbs fighting for one center's ass to grab.

My price to pass on Fields is 15, their 2nd and next years 1st and 3rd.  Take it or leave it.  

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21 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Seriously if we lose to WFT and are sitting at 3 Darnold isn't here and this is a forgone conclusion.  We all know this right?

That is a good point.  Mac Jones would be our guy!!😉

 

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1 minute ago, Shocker said:

My price to pass on Fields is 15, their 2nd and next years 1st and 3rd.  Take it or leave it.  

Next year’s first is crucial. It allows us to move up and take a QB in the 22 draft if Darnold doesn’t work out. If he does then we get to load up with more talent for the man!

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If you think about it, Bill B needed a QB and signed Cam.  He still needs a QB.  He played Darnold 6 times over the past 3 years at least, and he did not go after him when he became available.  Of course, I think BB is way overrated and rather stupid as a game coach because he has always had the GOAT, and maybe NYJ did not want to trade in the division, but it gives me pause...

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pause, not paws.

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3 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Yeah.  Someone here did a write up in him that was quite in depth and gave me a lot of optimism.  

Dont look for it, but if you find it, please share.  I think he is getting a bad rap on here, and it could change our thinking (if that is what you call it) about the draft.

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

If you think about it, Bill B needed a QB and signed Cam.  He still needs a QB.  He played Darnold 6 times over the past 3 years at least, and he did not go after him when he became available.  Of course, I think BB is way overrated and rather stupid as a game coach because he has always had the GOAT, and maybe NYJ did not want to trade in the division, but it gives me pause...

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Did you seriously just say Bill was 'rather stupid' as a 'game coach'. 🤦‍♀️

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