Panthers minicamp observations and such

[Strawman]

Who has the strongest arm in the NFL?

The NFL's Next Gen Stats service has been tracking the longest completed air distance for quarterbacks since 2016, giving five seasons worth of data through 2020. Using that five years worth of data, these are the 10 players with the longest regular season throws since 2016 — the main disclaimer here is that for the throws to count, they have to have been completed.

Player	Team	Year	Completed Air Distance (yards)
Jay Cutler	Bears	2016	65
Russell Wilson	Seahawks	2020	64.4
Cam Newton	Panthers	2016	64
Josh Allen	Bills	2018	63.9
Baker Mayfield	Browns	2018	63.8
Deshaun Watson	Texans	2020	63.4
Justin Herbert	Chargers	2020	63.2
Derek Carr	Raiders	2016	62.9
Kirk Cousins	Vikings	2018	62.9
Jared Goff	Rams	2018	62.7

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Why are you here if you don't want us to engage you on your strong opinions?

I certainly didn't join the huddle to repeatedly predict the failure of the teams new QB.  You're free to that.  Just don't get upset when other fans defend.  You call us homers and parrots, we call you wet blanket, and debbie downer.

I'm here to cheer my team on and share my opinions.

I'm curious about the basis for your "decision making" evaluation.

I've watched some of Darnold's games, including all of his ints last year.  I don't see a quarterback who makes an ungodly number of mistakes.    Some of his ints were stupid, but some were tips at the line, others under pressure, some  just impressive plays by excellent defenders who could drop back because the d could pressure without blitzing.

He has a bunch of ints, but nothing off the charts.

Is that the basis for "between the ears" assertion? 

 

Oh, feel free to challenge my opinions. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again in the future. That guy's entire shtick is not voicing an opinion and just bashing anyone who has anything other than a straight homer line opinion.

[1usctrojan]

19 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Why are you here if you don't want us to engage you on your strong opinions?

I certainly didn't join the huddle to repeatedly predict the failure of the teams new QB.  You're free to that.  Just don't get upset when other fans defend.  You call us homers and parrots, we call you wet blanket, and debbie downer.

I'm here to cheer my team on and share my opinions.

I'm curious about the basis for your "decision making" evaluation.

I've watched some of Darnold's games, including all of his ints last year.  I don't see a quarterback who makes an ungodly number of mistakes.    Some of his ints were stupid, but some were tips at the line, others under pressure, some  just impressive plays by excellent defenders who could drop back because the d could pressure without blitzing.

He has a bunch of ints, but nothing off the charts.

Is that the basis for "between the ears" assertion? 

 

If you hate to lose, think that the only way to have a chance at scoring, is tossing it up in hopes a WR comes down with it, you make stupid mistakes.

Football smarts/IQ is vastly different from intellect....God knows, dumb-as-rocks guys like Bradshaw and Marino would not be in the HOF, and Harvard guy Ryan Fitzpatrick would be a shoe In for a gold jacket.  

*Both TB and DM have both admitted or laughed about the low IQ scores.

Edited June 18, 2021 by 1usctrojan

[ForJimmy]

10 minutes ago, Strawman said:

Who has the strongest arm in the NFL?

The NFL's Next Gen Stats service has been tracking the longest completed air distance for quarterbacks since 2016, giving five seasons worth of data through 2020. Using that five years worth of data, these are the 10 players with the longest regular season throws since 2016 — the main disclaimer here is that for the throws to count, they have to have been completed.

Player	Team	Year	Completed Air Distance (yards)
Jay Cutler	Bears	2016	65
Russell Wilson	Seahawks	2020	64.4
Cam Newton	Panthers	2016	64
Josh Allen	Bills	2018	63.9
Baker Mayfield	Browns	2018	63.8
Deshaun Watson	Texans	2020	63.4
Justin Herbert	Chargers	2020	63.2
Derek Carr	Raiders	2016	62.9
Kirk Cousins	Vikings	2018	62.9
Jared Goff	Rams	2018	62.7

Yeah I think Baker launched it 70 yards on a Hail Mary, it was just incomplete. Kirk Cousins being on there shows it doesn’t show the whole story. A 50 yards pass from Rodgers looks a lot different than a 50 yard pass from Teddy. The great arms can launch it without having to lob it up high. 

[LinvilleGorge]

39 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The fact is Darnold’s arm is more than capable and he went number 3 overall with his turnover issues for a reason right? I don’t think and average arm, average athlete, with turnover issues gets drafted that high.

Did you watch any of Tim Couch's career?

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Did you watch any of Tim Couch's career?

He was crazy accurate in college. Had the NCAA record for highest completion % in a game, and had the most completions in a season. I think he had the most passing yards in the SEC until Burrow broke it. I would say he got drafted because of his stats, not necessarily athletic ability. He had 4275 yards and got Kentucky to 8-4. 

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He was crazy accurate in college. Had the NCAA record for highest completion % in a game, and had the most completions in a season. I think he had the most passing yards in the SEC until Burrow broke it. I would say he got drafted because of his stats, not necessarily athletic ability. He had 4275 yards and got Kentucky to 8-4. 

I'm just saying, that's an average arm/average athlete for an NFL QB at best and he went #3 overall.

What impressed me most with Burrow was his ability off schedule. The guy threw the same ball whether he was in a clean pocket, under pressure, running for his life, whatever. It was kinda crazy. I think that's where the talk of the Mahomes comparisons came from.

 

 

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm just saying, that's an average arm/average athlete for an NFL QB at best and he went #3 overall.

What impressed me most with Burrow was his ability off schedule. The guy threw the same ball whether he was in a clean pocket, under pressure, running for his life, whatever. It was kinda crazy. I think that's where the talk of the Mahomes comparisons came from.

 

 

Oh yeah, Burrow is legit. Smart, athletic, competitive, and seems to be a film room junkie. The man stays calm under pressure, if they can protect him, he should be the real deal. Check out his jump from Jr to Sr year.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joe-burrow-1.html
 

He had his chance and didn’t waste it. It will be interesting to see how much of it was Burrow and how much was Brady’s coaching. I’m sure it was a combo of both.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Oh yeah, Burrow is legit. Smart, athletic, competitive, and seems to be a film room junkie. The man stays calm under pressure, if they can protect him, he should be the real deal. Check out his jump from Jr to Sr year.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joe-burrow-1.html
 

He had his chance and didn’t waste it. It will be interesting to see how much of it was Burrow and how much was Brady’s coaching. I’m sure it was a combo of both.

Also don't underestimate the negative impact of the '80s high school offense LSU was running prior to Brady's arrival.

[micnificent28]

7 hours ago, Strawman said:

Who has the strongest arm in the NFL?

The NFL's Next Gen Stats service has been tracking the longest completed air distance for quarterbacks since 2016, giving five seasons worth of data through 2020. Using that five years worth of data, these are the 10 players with the longest regular season throws since 2016 — the main disclaimer here is that for the throws to count, they have to have been completed.

Player	Team	Year	Completed Air Distance (yards)
Jay Cutler	Bears	2016	65
Russell Wilson	Seahawks	2020	64.4
Cam Newton	Panthers	2016	64
Josh Allen	Bills	2018	63.9
Baker Mayfield	Browns	2018	63.8
Deshaun Watson	Texans	2020	63.4
Justin Herbert	Chargers	2020	63.2
Derek Carr	Raiders	2016	62.9
Kirk Cousins	Vikings	2018	62.9
Jared Goff	Rams	2018	62.7

strongest arm most would say josh allen buffalo 

[weyco2000]

6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Also don't underestimate the negative impact of the '80s high school offense LSU was running prior to Brady's arrival.

So, just give the guy an opportunity, then we bitch about it.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

So, just give the guy an opportunity, then we bitch about it.

Say what?

[ForJimmy]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Say what?

Must have been a fan of that 80s offense that hid talented QBs and WRs…

[weyco2000]

13 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

So, just give the guy an opportunity, then we bitch about it.

GIVE SAM DARNOLD A CHANCE!!!

The discussion at the time, on this particular thread was about our current QB situation.