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All out BRAWL at Giants camp


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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Not sure I'd copy the recent Pats draft model.

As in blow the draft for five years then go on a massive free agent spending spree? Nor would I.

Though given that they've both had a quarterback involved brawl and (sort of) lost Kelvin Benjamin for the season, it appears the Giants are following our 2015 season model 😐

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3 hours ago, rmoneyg35 said:

You think Cam is going to have a mvp season after having multiple games throwing below 150 yards passing? I mean are you expecting 80% of the players to get injured? Because Cam isn’t going to be mvp with guys like Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Jackson and Wilson. Hell you would probably have a higher chance of a running back like Henry or Mcaffrey winning mvp before Newton. There are probably 15 qbs who are better than Newton right now. I mean last year we were told how he was going to come back and be so great and how he was in such good shape and Bellacheat would get the most out of him and we saw how that went. 

 

Covid screwed his entire offseason over last year, one of the reasons it took him so long to even land on a team due to recovering from his surgery and not being able to go to teams for physicals.

 

Then he signs onto one of the more difficult to learn schemes.

 

The Patriots have always struggled against dual threat qbs, and it seemed pretty clear during the few games I watched last year that they didn't have an understanding of how to use one on offense either.  A lot times it seemed like they treated him like a wildcat qb, no real RPO misdirects, just qb draws and run options.  

 

The talent around him also sucked.

 

So yea, I do expect him to play better this year with a full off season, don't think it will be MVP caliber, but will the coaching evolve to take advantage of his skill set this year? Who knows.

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