From Peter King's Football Morning in America column today

[Toomers]

4 hours ago, BrianS said:

They are baked because we haven't spent 60 million yet.  We've spent 42 million.  We are committed to spend 18 next year.  He's trying to say we've spent 60 million over two years.  We haven't.  We've spent or committed to spend 60 million over three years.

We're going to spend more yet since our starter for next year is not going to be Darnold.

I just don't like when people say things that aren't true to generate buzz.

You still aren’t done spending over ThREE years. So it’s going to be 60M + whatever the QB costs next year. So it’s very true. You’re just trying to make it sound like they haven’t spent 60M already when they actually have. 

[BrianS]

6 minutes ago, Toomers said:

You still aren’t done spending over ThREE years. So it’s going to be 60M + whatever the QB costs next year. So it’s very true. You’re just trying to make it sound like they haven’t spent 60M already when they actually have. 

Well, in fact, they haven't.  That 18 million can't be paid until next year.  We've committed to pay it, which is in fact exactly what I said.  But our cost for QB's in the 2020 and 2021 seasons is NOT 60 million, which is what King said.

Our cost for the three seasons starting 2020 until 2022 will be 60 million plus whatever we pay for our starter next year.

The way King is stating it is the equivalent to saying that we've paid $350 million for our team this year.  That's not even remotely true.  Yes, we've committed to spend 169 million next year.  But you can't add that to our number for this year.  It's dumb, and wrong.

Committed spending for next year doesn't count this year, and the only way you can come to that $60 million King wants to troll out there is by adding committed spending from next year.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Well, in fact, they haven't.  That 18 million can't be paid until next year.  We've committed to pay it, which is in fact exactly what I said.  But our cost for QB's in the 2020 and 2021 seasons is NOT 60 million, which is what King said.

Our cost for the three seasons starting 2020 until 2022 will be 60 million plus whatever we pay for our starter next year.

The way King is stating it is the equivalent to saying that we've paid $350 million for our team this year.  That's not even remotely true.  Yes, we've committed to spend 169 million next year.  But you can't add that to our number for this year.  It's dumb, and wrong.

Committed spending for next year doesn't count this year, and the only way you can come to that $60 million King wants to troll out there is by adding committed spending from next year.

He is showing they have invested 60M in the two years since Cam left. That 60M is gone as will every QB they paid. Then they have to get another QB. Dress it up any way you want but they still spent 60M so far. Nothing King stated was false. 

[grimesgoat]

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

He is showing they have invested 60M in the two years since Cam left. That 60M is gone as will every QB they paid. Then they have to get another QB. Dress it up any way you want but they still spent 60M so far. Nothing King stated was false. 

No, he's right.  For example, what if we trade Darnold next year for a 6th and agree to pay half his salary.  That's 9m we will not pay for him.

Not likely to happen at this point, but then again we got a 6th for TB.  

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, grimesgoat said:

No, he's right.  For example, what if we trade Darnold next year for a 6th and agree to pay half his salary.  That's 9m we will not pay for him.

Not likely to happen at this point, but then again we got a 6th for TB.  

Then you are swapping something of value to get something else of value. Still has to be accounted for. And no team is paying 9.5M for Darnold. Teddy had a little value at 3M. Sam Has none. So until something changes, Kings numbers are dead on correct. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

[ickmule]

5 hours ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

Summed up nicely.  Hopefully lesson learned.  I think there was a logical decision to release Cam.  At that point in time.  Same for the TB and Darnold signing.  But damn it does look incredibly stupid now.  

We don’t really know how stupid if was or wasn’t. Cam played sparingly.  Until he has played a few complete games we really don’t know anything.  

[Jackie Lee]

King has always been a Cam hater. I get the the paying too much for guys not playing complaint, but totally disagree with him being flabbergasted by Cam getting around $6m guaranteed to basically save the season and keep the fanbase engaged. That's basically Taysom Hill money, who has 3 tds total all year as a gadget/failed QB? King loves that guy

[rayzor]

He's a pinheaded jackass

[jayboogieman]

8 hours ago, PanthersATL said:

He wrote more words about a game where the QB didn't play than he did about a game where an entire team made a statement when a QB came back.

Not surprising. The Panthers have been bad since the Super Bowl season and haven't exactly been newsworthy. The Panthers also aren't very popular nationally. 

[jayboogieman]

8 hours ago, Toomers said:

So if the Panthers do trade for an established starter, it would leave them without first-round, second-round and fourth-round picks in 2022. That would mean Carolina would have one pick in (approximately) the top 150 of next year’s draft, and that pick would be midway through the third round, about 80th overall.

 Only because it's so sad

[jayboogieman]

8 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Stop it Peter. Tom Brady, Drew Brees played way past 32yrs old and so can Cam Newton.

Not everything is trashing Cam. Those guys also played as more traditional pocket passers where Cam has always been more of a running QB that has taken a lot more punishment over the years. Wondering what Cam has left in the tank and if his body can handle a full season or even a half is a fair question considering his injury history.

[rippadonn]

4 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Not everything is trashing Cam. Those guys also played as more traditional pocket passers where Cam has always been more of a running QB that has taken a lot more punishment over the years. Wondering what Cam has left in the tank and if his body can handle a full season or even a half is a fair question considering his injury history.

No he's a Cam hating Luck lover!

[jayboogieman]

7 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

I seen Drew Brees shoulder in the middle of his back next to his spine his last game as a Charger. He then went on to have a new career in New Orleans and lasted a decade or more longer.

Brees was younger and has never played the same physical style Cam has. People did question Brees until he proved he could stay healthy too. It's ok to question if Cam can stay healthy too.