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Look for big moves this offseason in free agency. Samir will be dishing out a lot of voided year contracts... and thats fine.

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that’s a worry.  Nothing sound about Robby and Sam.  That’s not something a good FO does.  

1. Robby's contract is a 1 year deal. If he is traded post 6/1 we get all of the money back based on how the contract is structured. So if we hit the shitter, we can shop him for a conditional pickl to a contender who needs a deep threat, and it doesnt impact at all and we gain a pick.

2. Samir has zero say in a rookie contract

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

He didnt though... none of the contracts he put together were more than  1 year deals with outs and small dead cap penalties with immediate cap savings. Look into every deal he has done since he has gotten here. 

Robbie Anderson has 20M still guaranteed. And he sucked. So that’s 20M for 3-4M dead cap. Darnold(19M). No reason. 31M guaranteed for the first QB. 13M for KK for no reason. CMC signs richest RB contracts ever. Plays 10 games(in 2 years) Tre Boston 9.5M for one year. 
 

Think they could have gotten a decent OL with all that wasted space? 

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Wouldn’t mind restructuring Shaq.  He’s usually healthy and had his best season as a pro.  Would also love to do that with Fox.  The cap is very manageable if you’re good at it and Samir seems like one of the great money guys in the league, so we’ll figure it out.  Wish he was here when we signed Matt Kalil.  

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Robbie Anderson has 20M still guaranteed. And he sucked. So that’s 20M for 3-4M dead cap. Darnold(19M). No reason. 31M guaranteed for the first QB. 13M for KK for no reason. CMC signs richest RB contracts ever. Plays 10 games(in 2 years) Tre Boston 9.5M for one year. 
 

Think they could have gotten a decent OL with all that wasted space? 

First, Samir wasnt here for KK, CMC, and Tre Boston's contract.... so you cant blame him for those contract.

Second, that is short term cap and zero impact on following seasons due to strcuture of the contract for RA. We have an out post 2022, and like stated before if traded next year, we gain 15mil back in cap. 

Sure, if they previous FO didnt fug the cap, we could have gone out and bought lineman. This current staff inherited almost 50million of dead cap last year.....

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Every contract has an out every year. It’s just how much it will cost. 

okay now i realize is going to be endless with you. It's apparent you don't understand the financial strategies of this business. Which is one of my favorite parts. 

tapping out.

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

First, Samir wasnt here for KK, CMC, and Tre Boston's contract.... so you cant blame him for those contract.

Second, that is short term cap and zero impact on following seasons due to strcuture of the contract for RA. We have an out post 2022, and like stated before if traded next year, we gain 15mil back in cap. 

Sure, if they previous FO didnt fug the cap, we could have gone out and bought lineman. This current staff inherited almost 50million of dead cap last year.....

The Saints are negative 80 million to be out of the same playoffs we are with an older roster lmao.

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1. Robby's contract is a 1 year deal. If he is traded post 6/1 we get all of the money back based on how the contract is structured. So if we hit the shitter, we can shop him for a conditional pickl to a contender who needs a deep threat, and it doesnt impact at all and we gain a pick.

2. Samir has zero say in a rookie contract

Robby was a 2 year deal.  And he took up more cap than Devante Adams and Diggs lol.  That’s bad.  And it sets a bad precedent for how they do business. 

I didn’t comment on rookie deals.  The worry is what they will do with Reddick, Jackson, etc.  

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First, Samir wasnt here for KK, CMC, and Tre Boston's contract.... so you cant blame him for those contract.

Second, that is short term cap and zero impact on following seasons due to strcuture of the contract for RA. We have an out post 2022, and like stated before if traded next year, we gain 15mil back in cap. 

Sure, if they previous FO didnt fug the cap, we could have gone out and bought lineman. This current staff inherited almost 50million of dead cap last year.....

Samir ain’t running the show.  He is signing deals the goof troop tells him to sign. 

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Robby was a 2 year deal.  And he took up more cap than Devante Adams and Diggs lol.  That’s bad.  And it sets a bad precedent for how they do business. 

I didn’t comment on rookie deals.  The worry is what they will do with Reddick, Jackson, etc.  

No, Robby's deal is essentially just a one year extension. We have an out built into the 2023 offseason, it will cost us less than 4million in DS and save us almost 10million in free cap space. 

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Samir ain’t running the show.  He is signing deals the goof troop tells him to sign. 

Go back and watch the camp confidential and the episode where Fitts says that Samir handles all of the deals. He is the one who makes the decisions on if the deal will work or not. 

Sure MR and Fitt make the decision on the who, but Samir determines if it is feasible financially. 

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