Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

For the Willis isn't that fast crowd

micnificent28

By micnificent28,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

micnificent28 Mentor

micnificent28

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

If he thought he was going to run anything in the 4.2 or 4.3 range he would have ran at some point.  He got ran down too many times to run anywhere near that.

Except scouts who timed him said he was clocked in game moving at the same speed as kyler who ran a 4.38. Sooo. My answer to why he didn't run a 40 is because what does he gain from running a fast time? What if something goes wrong? More to loose than gain from running. That's like saying why didn't Evan Neal run the 40. Or do bench? Same thing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tr3ach Veteran

Tr3ach

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Except scouts who timed him said he was clocked in game moving at the same speed as kyler who ran a 4.38. Sooo. My answer to why he didn't run a 40 is because what does he gain from running a fast time? What if something goes wrong? More to loose than gain from running. That's like saying why didn't Evan Neal run the 40. Or do bench? Same thing.

If he runs a high 4.4 or 4.5?  Nothing.  If he ran a 4.2 or 4.3 like people are trying to say?  He would definitely have something to gain.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
micnificent28 Mentor

micnificent28

Posted
  • Author
Posted
8 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

If he runs a high 4.4 or 4.5?  Nothing.  If he ran a 4.2 or 4.3 like people are trying to say?  He would definitely have something to gain.

I think people who are advising him would try to mitigate risk. He was asked why he didn't run he said his support staff everyone but his dad told him not 2. In the past most of the fast qbs didn't run the 40. Did Lamar jackson? Nobody said oh he must not be fast.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Proudiddy Grand Master

Proudiddy

Posted
Posted

drool GIF

In all seriousness, I have comped him to Russ and Lamar...  I see traits of both.  Interestingly enough, IIRC, didn't Lamar opt not to run at any point leading up to his draft?

I'm hoping we can shore up the left side to complement BC and then can feel good about taking Willis in the Top 10 and bring Cam back to mentor him along until he's ready.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
32 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Exactly..  these boomers seem to think having legs makes you a horrible passer.. look at the top qbs in the most of these guys have some ability to move and or pick up first downs with their legs. The pure pocket passer is actually a dying breed.

Screenshot_20220322-110630_Chrome.jpg

Pure pocket passers are still winning in the playoffs and still winning super bowls

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
micnificent28 Mentor

micnificent28

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Pure pocket passers are still winning in the playoffs and still winning super bowls

How many pure pockets passers are left? Brady? Stafford to a degree? Brady himself has won half of the last few super bowls and stopped a host of others from getting there. I don't see anymore Brady coming out. Most qbs have to have some ability to move in the pocket these days.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • raleigh-panther
      The Panthers Huddle Offseason Special

      By raleigh-panther · Posted

      The Panthers Huddle is usually just propaganda …this one was actually good im feeling good about the Morgan and Canales marriage  the proof is ‘in the pudding’ however  …and have to remember a first time head coach and players who have never played together before but they can’t possibly be worse than last year  the wild card to all this,  too,  is Young  I wish I felt better about him but I don’t  Morgan says he wants ‘dawgs’ not ‘dogs’ I.e. pit bulls vs poodles…I see young as the latter, not the former  Regardless, life is full of surprises…maybe he is a lot more than I see.  I’m not a scout or coach 
    • mountainpantherfan2
      Where would the Panthers be if they sat Bryce Young last season?

      By mountainpantherfan2 · Posted

      There are a lot of moving parts to this type of questions and way too many variables to consider to really predict how the outcome would have been any different in 2023 with Dalton starting more than just one game.  But instead of focusing on that Seattle game, another game, and the game following it, are more intriguing to me.   Week 16 vs Green Bay.  Young had the best game of his rookie season.  23/36 (64%) for 312 with 2 TD and no INT.  Thielen (6/94), Chark (6/98) and Tremble (4/59) all had huge plays in the passing game. The running game was a different story.  Hubbard (16/43) and Sanders (3/3) combined for just 46 yards rushing.  Mays was starting at LG and Jensen at RG.  The offensive line was able to protect Young just enough to keep the Panthers in the game until the very end.  But this wasn't because they were playing at a high level, rather the Packers defense played horrible this game. But this horrible defensive effort by the Packers allowed us to see what could be possible if Young had time to process and throw. Fast forward to Week 17 vs Jacksonville.  The offense was shut out and the offensive line allowed 6 sacks and 8 more QH's.   If you go back and watch these games back to back, the line play if very noticeable.  When Young had time in process and move, he was spot on.  When the line collapsed, like most QBs, he was ineffective. When you draft a QB 1st overall in the draft, especially if you trade up to do so, you hope to get a QB that can make plays despite the struggles around him.  Think Newton his rookie year.  Should the Panthers have traded up in the 2023 draft to the 1st overall and should they have drafted Young at that spot? My opinion is no to the first question and no QB in 2023 was worth trading up to take in the top 10.  Neither Stroud, Richardson or Levis would have been worth it.   But none of them would have fared any better than Young either with the Panthers, in my opinion.  Stroud had a good season in Houston but he didn't have a Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson season.  He needed slightly above average talent in one of the worst divisions to make the playoffs. He had the season we were hoping for in Carolina but wasn't going to get with Young or Stroud. Now, I'm not trying to put Young up on a pedestal here.  There are a lot of questions that still surround him and his ability to be QB1 on the Panthers in the future.  But the issue last year wasn't just the play at the QB position.  And really, I don't think the WR issues were as much as people make them out to be.  The real issue on this offense was the line and the running game.  If your line can't get a push to run the ball or pass block to pass the ball, you have no offense.   Start Young. Start Dalton.  Draft Stroud, Richardson or Levis.  Kidnap Mahomes.  Doesn't matter, I think the end result would have been the same. 
    • Bear Hands
      The Panthers Huddle Offseason Special

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      If there’s any year to be aggressive with it, it’s this one.
×
×
  • Create New...