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RPO Overreaction...?


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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Newton ran a Zone Read offense, not an RPO.

There are similarities, but they're not the same thing. RPOs have emerged more recently while use of the zone read has been significantly reduced  (at the pro level, at least).

Those of us who haven't been banned a dozen times or more by them might feel differently.

That's besides the point here, the point was that they didn't have "Pro-style Offenses" in college. It's like were having a conversation about someone's ability to speak English and I said someone's experience with Ukrainian shouldn't mean they can't learn English and someone says that someone else learned English after speaking Russian, not Ukrainian, so I shouldn't compare the two.. I hate that I just had to explain this this way. Or use "this this" in a sentence lol

Edit: lets not forget this: 

 

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8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:
8 hours ago, Pakmeng said:

He'd be more fun to go to a game with than the mod squad that's for sure 

Sam Darnold or iamhubby1? Neither seems like they would be a pleasant hang.

CMC and the inimitable #59 hang out with Silver Platter Sam on a regular basis...

...must have different taste in friends vs. you... 🧐

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8 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I should have clarified that we won't be running an rpo spread offense like Corral ran in college. The spread offense puts your QB at risk in the NFL and McAdoo is supposedly good at scheming protections to help the QB while getting it out quickly. 

 

How did Corral get 500 yards running the ball in Kiffins RPO spread. I thought you can only key off the linebacker and throw it or hand off to the running back. 

I’d expect spread to be one of the better formations for a QB to run out of, especially in college and  especially if you are using the play action look that comes with the rpo. Seems like it would help your QB find space and maybe get out of bounds.

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1 hour ago, imminent rogaine said:

I’d expect spread to be one of the better formations for a QB to run out of, especially in college and  especially if you are using the play action look that comes with the rpo. Seems like it would help your QB find space and maybe get out of bounds.

Actually an RPO is a hybrid between play action and read option with differences in the keys and the blocking. And you can play action out of other offenses in addition to an RPO so it doesn't really mean they are connected. Play action is about faking run blocking and actually pass blocking not advancing to avoid a penalty versus an RPO which is a running play  unless you throw it  since you are run blocking and advancing. Passes have to be quick to avoid linemen downfield penalties.

The spread works in college but not as well in the pros unless you have guys who routinely win their 1 on 1 matchups on the line. Too much speed in the NFL. Otherwise it puts your QB at risk unless he can get the ball out or scramble and throw on the run. Attributes that made Corral attractive to us since he can do that. But having the ability doesn't make it preferable.  I expect we will run a timing passing game with a lot of dumpoffs, triple receiver sets,  Throws to get guys open in space one on one and count on yards after the catch to make up the yards. We will run quite a bit likely out of the shotgun and try to use motion and alignments to cause mismatches presnap rather than have to read defenders and then make decisions which may not be our qbs best ability for different reasons. We will likely use play action and some RPO plays, as well as some west coast principles while having big guys up front who can really run block and plow the road. 

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17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Newton ran a Zone Read offense, not an RPO.

There are similarities, but they're not the same thing. RPOs have emerged more recently while use of the zone read has been significantly reduced  (at the pro level, at least).

Those of us who haven't been banned a dozen times or more by them might feel differently.

I have never caught a ban hammer (yet) and consider myself one of the more level posters here but sheesh. CRA is aight mostly but LG is a tired trope right about now. 

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13 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

CMC and the inimitable #59 hang out with Silver Platter Sam on a regular basis...

...must have different taste in friends vs. you... 🧐

I mean, given how bad Sam is on the team I root for, it would probably just be awkward. Like, genuinely what would we talk about? 

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15 minutes ago, jayflip said:

I have never caught a ban hammer (yet) and consider myself one of the more level posters here but sheesh. CRA is aight mostly but LG is a tired trope right about now. 

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enjoy the Truly, Mike's Hard Lemonades and whatever else those guys prefer to pound pre game. 

I'm just going to sit back and patiently what for you to violate any of the 4783 rules you might be unaware of.  Then ban you.  (in a Sandlot voice).  FOR-EV-ER. 

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22 minutes ago, jayflip said:

I have never caught a ban hammer (yet) and consider myself one of the more level posters here but sheesh. CRA is aight mostly but LG is a tired trope right about now. 

For context, the poster I quoted is most likely the latest version of our most persistent recidivist, aka Chuck.

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17 minutes ago, jayflip said:

I have never caught a ban hammer (yet) and consider myself one of the more level posters here but sheesh. CRA is aight mostly but LG is a tired trope right about now. 

 

My favorite trick of the Cult Of Negativity, is when they take words out of context to ridicule folks. Well, that, and when they swoop into threads and derail them with their personal attacks, and negativity. 

 

It WAS getting better after the FA period, and the Draft. But man, it sure is amping up again.

 

This is the time of year for looking forward, to being excited for what the newcomers can bring. It should be a fun time to be around here. Too bad most folks are doing duck and cover, every time they actual do post.

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JFC this team is so bad that discussing facts is on the same level as the fringe trolls and toxic positivity cheerleaders...

Cam ran a read option which is why he had the tendency to hold the ball  to and run with the RB as he read the D. 

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15 hours ago, panthers55 said:

The problem with the RPO  is exposing your qb to getting hit as a runner which allows a lot more potential for injury. Even Cam got hurt on occasion and he was built like a tight end. Corral isn't that big and got hurt on college running the ball.  He would get crunched in the NFL.

Corral is very adept at throwing accurately while on the move, almost Aaron Rodgers like, who is a good physical comparison. So for him the RPO may work out if he doesn't hold the ball and can throw it away if nothing is there.

 

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