Panthers are gonna shock the world!

[Michael G]

On 7/7/2022 at 9:38 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't see it happening but I'd be happier than Sean Payton in a pharmacy.

[Michael G]

With our schedule 8 wins might shock the world!

[trueblade]

6 hours ago, poundaway said:

I really think we are going to pass more with McAdoo as OC and Baker at QB. 

Wasn't that the whole disconnect between Rhule and Brady? Brady wanted to pass more and Rhule wanted to run more.

I'd be surprised if Rhule backs off of being a run-first team.

[poundaway]

36 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Wasn't that the whole disconnect between Rhule and Brady? Brady wanted to pass more and Rhule wanted to run more.

I'd be surprised if Rhule backs off of being a run-first team.

We pretty much completely sucked at both.  Would your plan be to have Sam throw more?

[poundaway]

 

On 7/7/2022 at 10:24 PM, PootieNunu said:

Im not even sure the offense is that much improved unless Baker steps his game up. These are the numbers from last year without factoring in Baker was on a playoff ready roster and Darnold was on one of the worst coached teams in the league with no OL. I know darnold sucks with or without an OL, but still. 

Baker: 60.5% 3010 yards,17TDs, 13ints Badthrow% 20.9 OnTarget% 73.6
Darnold :59% 2527 yards,9TDs 13ints Badthrow% 18.5 OnTarget% 74.5

 

1 hour ago, dynomite said:

Was darnold playing injured with a coach that was getting him killed on purpose every week? Did you watch that last Steelers game. He didn’t even attempt to protect his qb. 

I'd love an additional 500 yards and 8 touchdowns.  We lost 6 games alone by less than a score.

Baker was actually sacked 43 times last year, while Sam was sacked 35.  Neither line was really kicking ass, the Browns were down both tackles at one point.

Edited July 13, 2022 by poundaway

[poundaway]

 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, poundaway said:

 

Where are his numbers?

[poundaway]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Where are his numbers?

The labels are staggered.  He's the blue bar next to Brady.

Edited July 13, 2022 by poundaway

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, poundaway said:

The labels are staggered.  He's the blue bar next to Brady.

Yes but what is he basis that off of?  He has to be pulling the numbers from somewhere? 

[poundaway]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yes but what is he basis that off of?  He has to be pulling the numbers from somewhere? 

Don't know where his numbers come from.  I know the deep ball project has similar conclusions, that Baker is in the top tier for deep ball accuracy each year. 

He's at PFF so they have their own thing I guess.

Edited July 13, 2022 by poundaway

[ForJimmy]

13 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yes but what is he basis that off of?  He has to be pulling the numbers from somewhere? 

It kind of makes sense though.  He had a good OL and strong running game where they could utilize his strong arm on PA plays.  His arm also got him into some trouble forcing some throws.  

[poundaway]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/baker-mayfield-by-the-numbers-browns-quarterback-on-pace-to-match-impressive-peyton-manning-dan-marino-marks/

Most pass yards by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Andrew Luck -- 12,957
    Peyton Manning -- 12,287
    Jameis Winston -- 11,636
    Cam Newton -- 11,299
    Baker Mayfield -- 11,115

Most pass TD by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Andrew Luck -- 86
    Peyton Manning -- 85
    Carson Palmer -- 78
    Baker Mayfield -- 75
    Jameis Winston -- 69

Highest passer rating by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Baker Mayfield -- 89.1
    Jameis Winston -- 87.2
    Andrew Luck -- 86.6
    Cam Newton -- 86.4
    Peyton Manning -- 85.4

*Minimum 1,500 attempts
Highest completion percentage by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Carson Palmer -- 63.79
    Baker Mayfield -- 61.89
    Jameis Winston -- 60.82
    Peyton Manning -- 60.39
    Cam Newton -- 59.80

 

[poundaway]

Baker has had flashes

Baker's highest completion percentage games:
2021, Houston 90.4 (19-21)
2018, Atlanta 85.0 (17-20)
2020, New York Giants 84.4 (27-32)

Baker had a 5 TD game against Cincinnati in 2020.  That's like half of what Darnold did all last year.

Baker's highest passer rating games:
2018, Atlanta 151.2
2020, Tennessee 146.9

 

[joemac]

11 hours ago, poundaway said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/baker-mayfield-by-the-numbers-browns-quarterback-on-pace-to-match-impressive-peyton-manning-dan-marino-marks/

Most pass yards by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Andrew Luck -- 12,957
    Peyton Manning -- 12,287
    Jameis Winston -- 11,636
    Cam Newton -- 11,299
    Baker Mayfield -- 11,115

Most pass TD by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Andrew Luck -- 86
    Peyton Manning -- 85
    Carson Palmer -- 78
    Baker Mayfield -- 75
    Jameis Winston -- 69

Highest passer rating by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Baker Mayfield -- 89.1
    Jameis Winston -- 87.2
    Andrew Luck -- 86.6
    Cam Newton -- 86.4
    Peyton Manning -- 85.4

*Minimum 1,500 attempts
Highest completion percentage by No. 1 pick (first three seasons)

    Carson Palmer -- 63.79
    Baker Mayfield -- 61.89
    Jameis Winston -- 60.82
    Peyton Manning -- 60.39
    Cam Newton -- 59.80

 

So, I think what we can HOPEFULLY say is that last year was an injury ravaged aberration in his career, and that before last year, he was maybe one of the most successful Number 1 overall picks in NFL history.  Im very interested to see how this all plays out.