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Bad year to have a Bad year: A no win situation for Fox


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As we all know John Fox is the King of "perceived emotional indifference."

He tries to show emotional restraint by maintaining his gum chomping, golf clapping, I don't worry attitude that drives most of Carolina fans insane when things just need more urgency.

Today I saw a different man.

I saw a coach that knows his firm loyalty to Delhomme may have just cost Foxie another contract with the Panthers. Fox's time may just be done.

With the first two picks in the game John Fox was red-faced, fuming and spitting mad at the poor decisions that were made by his lost veteran QB. He was seemingly more than willing at half-time to make a change. As always....he did not.

Now Coach Fox is faced with making a decision the rational-fan and sports community thought should have been made much earlier in this putrid season: Making a QB change to... Matt Moore?(maybe?). I think it will happen this week

However no matter how the QB2 will do, be it Matt or AJ, Fox has now positioned himself in an outcome that can only fail....in terms of his continued tenure in Charlotte.

If Matt Moore(QB2) fails and is just miserable: Fox loses....of course

If Matt Moore is the breakout player of 2009 and the Panthers play better than .500: Fox loses even more!!!! This would magnify John Fox's shortcomings with player loyalty and failure to identify talent and adjust earlier. So even an undefeated rest of the season would jeopardize Fox's job in my opinion.

Simply put Panther Fans...Fox is done!! He got angry wayyy too late.

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He should start Moore so that the next head coach can evaluate the QB area. If Moore is good, draft a QB and let him and Moore battle it out for #1 with Jake as the #3 (Cause idk if they'll cut him due to his contract). If he isnt, sign a veteran plus draft a QB with Jake still as the #3. The number of games left isn't alot and the change should've been done way before now.

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If Matt Moore is the breakout player of 2009 and the Panthers play better than .500: Fox loses even more!!!! This would magnify John Fox's shortcomings with player loyalty and failure to identify talent and adjust earlier. So even an undefeated rest of the season would jeopardize Fox's job in my opinion.

This is my thinking too....it would only conform to the pattern he has followed to this point. I mentioned in another thread the loyalty to Foster while DeAngelo was waiting in the wings too long, and his decision to pay big bucks to Dan Morgan when Witherspoon was the better choice (IMO).

Sticking with crappy Jake only to find out when it's too late in the season that Matt Moore has potential, talent, and produces wins would be a fitting end to the Fox era.

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Pray he and hurney both are done....along with our OC, DC, ST and strength and conditioning coaches.

Ummm.....we should keep Davidson & Meeks. Meeks's plan is working that I felt he should stay. Davidson is somewhat a question mark for now, but he might shown he is better if it wasn't for Fox. Looking at Henning with the 'Phins right now make me think Davidson doesn't deserve all of the blame on him when that should be on Fox instead with how conservative he is.

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Titans have now won their 5th straight

Smh at Richardson letting this to continue. We're not going to the playoffs, Fox contract is up next year, Jake is factually a bench QB now. So wont you just be a boss and pull the plug now. Make a change and spark some new energy atleast

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