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BS: IF There's A Team That COULD Be This Year's Version Of The 2021 Bengals, It's The Carolina Panthers

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Just now, rayzor said:

why does anyone care about negative posting? it's always been the case that when people aren't optimistic and voice their opinion about the team that those superfans that are always optimistic feel it necessary to go after those who aren't. sooo...why care? why the crusade to attack all the fans that don't feel good about the team? i mean do the superfans get any brownie points for being defenders of the cause?

I could care less about negative posting.  Overreacting (like calling a player a bust after a preseason game, crying our season is ruined when our forth string project QB goes on IR) will get mocked by me.  It goes both ways too.  Saying Matt Corral is the next Aaron Rodgers will also get mocked.  If anyone is trying to crusade against every negative posting they will never get a moment's rest as a majority of posts will be negative given the state of our franchise (and rightfully so).  The comment that was in question by @TheCasillaswas a poster mocking positive fans and telling them to "stfu."  People will have different expectations and opinions which is what keeps the board going, but getting upset about a fan being optimistic just seems odd to me.  It's like the whole I'm not happy so no one else can be!

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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3429532/if-theres-a-team-that-could-be-this-years-version-of-the-2021-bengals-its-the-carolina-panthers

Even under Stefanski, (Bakers) average intended air yards ranked top five in the NFL over the past two seasons.

You may be thinking by this point, "Yeah but the whole premise of this blog falls apart because Baker is nowhere NEAR Joe Burrow's level!" Remember what was going down prior to Week 1 of 2021? Joey B. was coming off a brutal knee injury and very few expected him to even be recovered to play by then, much less make it through the season behind his awful offensive line — much less suddenly transform into a top-five QB and spark a Super Bowl run! So yeah, Burrow is better than Baker, but that doesn't render this entire, larger narrative irrelevant. The Panthers have different team strengths than the Bengals did, namely an outstanding defense.

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8 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Panthers have the Bengals OL of 2020.

Panthers don't have a Chase type WR in the clutch.

Baker is no where near Burrow when it comes to GWD ability.

Panthers defense doesn't have proven defenders who can produce turnovers.

Far from a Bengals 2021 or either Panthers SB losing teams. Why would we even hope to be SB losers? SB and dynasty is always the goal, or don't bother showing up on game day imo.

We are hoping for a Rams 1999 miracle season. The pieces were out there to make this a possibility, but the front office missed the target in the offseason/draft.

Approaching this season like it is anything less than a SB champion or bust season for Rhule was their first mistake. Allowing Rhule a 7 year plan and to existing a perpetual rebuilding season for 3 years is a problem.

 

Baker is every bit as good as Burrow. 

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1 hour ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Exactly. The mods don't notice that this place has the tone of teenage girls shrieking about boy-band drama mainly because they're part of the group doing it. There are honestly people on here that think David Tepper reads the huddle and will do as they wish if they whine hard enough. It's run off a lot of good posters. Again, I'm not sold on Rhule, I don't mind the criticism, it's just the redundancy. 

There were four "Fire Rhule" threads after a preseason loss. To quote Letterkenny's hockey coach, "It's fuging embarrassing!"

This. I have criticisms too and I don't mind criticisms but the redundancy mostly by the same people basically just saying the same things over and over again. THAT is what irritates people and NOT legitimate criticisms. But when it gets to the point that every thread is hijacked by the same people with the same ol' song and dance it really takes away from the enjoyment of the site for a lot of people. 

Then, people who try to approach things more rationally get called Rhule lovers for defending him but sometimes it's not defending him it's just trying to bring the conversation back from angry, lunatic land. 

I know I have Rhule in my name, that's because I joined right after we hired him and I thought is was clever and better than any other name I could come up with but that doesn't mean I'm 100% convinced he's the right guy. I also don't believe 2 seasons is enough time to make that decision. I don't give up on anything easily which is why I'm still married after 20 years. 

There are good things and bad things at this point but I do see our roster improving and our cap space is fixed. I think Baker has a great chance of being our QB for the future because I have seen him play very well in less than ideal situations. I like the coaching changes and I like that Rhule physically looks ok. Last year he looked bad and I was seriously concerned for his health as a human being. 

I want to wait until this season happens before blaming him for everything bad that happens in the world. Those types of posts come from angry, lunatic land. People just need to chill out a little. I think that's all people are trying to say when they complain about the hate. It's not criticizing when every post is about how bad, stupid, fat, etc. another person is. That IS hating. There's a difference.  

30 minutes ago, rayzor said:

why does anyone care about negative posting? it's always been the case that when people aren't optimistic and voice their opinion about the team that those superfans that are always optimistic feel it necessary to go after those who aren't. sooo...why care? why the crusade to attack all the fans that don't feel good about the team? i mean do the superfans get any brownie points for being defenders of the cause?

See above.

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7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

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I agree its too far atm but tbf at this point last year Burrow and Baker were being compared.  Baker had just come off a playoff win in Pittsburg and Burrow an injury ended season. Few predicted Baker to implode and Burrow to do his first 5 GWDs for a SB run.  We'll see if the Bengals fall to earth with a SB hangover and if Burrow is the HOF he looks to be.

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17 minutes ago, Panthers Rhule said:

basically just saying the same things over and over again. THAT is what irritates people and NOT legitimate criticisms. But when it gets to the point that every thread is hijacked by the same people with the same ol' song and dance it really takes away from the enjoyment of the site for a lot of people. 

just ignore it.

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11 hours ago, rayzor said:

Crazy the amount of "fans" that care about what other fans think. Stay in your own fuggin lane.

 

39 minutes ago, rayzor said:

lol people don't like being told no one cares about their opinions of other fans. 

 

Or maybe we just want you to "stay in your lane" and do a little moderation instead of lashing out and complaining about something you are uniquely positioned to do something about. 

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