BS: IF There's A Team That COULD Be This Year's Version Of The 2021 Bengals, It's The Carolina Panthers

[ForJimmy]

9 minutes ago, chbright said:

This topic got off the rails quickly and is headed a completely different direction.

 

Anywho, it's a reach to compare Burrow and Baker. That said, if we have the healthy WR and RB group, a little luck with the line staying healthy where the rookie LT takes to it quickly, it shouldn't be a shitshow offense we saw last year or for large stretches of 2020. Thats worth a few wins as we let waay too many go last year with abominations on O.

The defense isn't poo either, thin as can be though up front. Part of the luck is having the right depth for the inevitable injuries. If things broke right, barstool isn't the only ones to think we have a punchers chance. Heard a few on the radio say we are a dark horse mostly cause of the defense, CMC, with the assumption that Baker is at least a top 20 QB. With the issues in ATL, no Peyton in NO, and the greybeards in Tampa getting hurt already, it could quickly turn into the another case where a sub 500 club could make it into the playoffs. The bucs are on Brady or bust for year 3. Father time will get to him someday, and if that's this year, the division is wide open.

Now it's a long shot, but so we're the bungles last year. Imo, it's all on Baker to make this work.

I just want competent, competitive football for now.  Playoffs and everything else can follow later.  I just don't want to watch a QB running for his life, constantly turning the ball over and wearing out our defense.  It was unwatchable at times last year...

[The Natural]

There are posters here who I honestly think would be angry if we had a good season.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

just about including myself. you see, i have these arguments in my head....

If you ban yourself the site will actually self destruct.  I heard it from an anonymous source....

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

just about including myself. you see, i have these arguments in my head....

The Human condition....

 

The knee jerk stuff both ways can be annoying but if you have posted here a decade or more like a lot here have its silly to complain about it... It should be expected.

[mrcompletely11]

48 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

The line is certainly at 7... just an FYI.

 

I'll add this how many wins did vegas have us for in 2015? 

Not sure but more times then not Vegas is dead on.  

[mrcompletely11]

30 minutes ago, The Natural said:

There are posters here who I honestly think would be angry if we had a good season.

You going to have to name names

[weyco2000]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not sure but more times then not Vegas is dead on.  

So Vegas had the Rams beating the Bengals in the SB last year?

[weyco2000]

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You going to have to name names

Oh you’re definitely battling for the title 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not sure but more times then not Vegas is dead on.  

It was 8.... Won 15...

Your statement is completely incorrect..... 272 games this upcoming season.... Even accounting for the .5 lines they are leaving out SEVENTY TWO wins with the current line.... 

 

Vegas is all about betting lines and heard fan opinion... 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

So Vegas had the Rams beating the Bengals in the SB last year?

Rams were a top 3 team to win the super bowl the Bengals bottom 3

 

All in all sure there are exceptions but I bet if you go through the win totals preseason they would be more right then wrong

 

They had us at 6 IIRC  edit it was 5.5

 

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/2021-win-totals/

Edited August 22, 2022 by mrcompletely11

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

It was 8.... Won 15...

Your statement is completely incorrect..... 272 games this upcoming season.... Even accounting for the .5 lines they are leaving out SEVENTY TWO wins with the current line.... 

 

Vegas is all about betting lines and heard fan opinion... 

I have no idea what you are trying to say with this post

 

what was 8 and what was 15

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

I have no idea what you are trying to say with this post

 

what was 8 and what was 15

You are proving my point, this thread is about two things projected win totals and Vegas season start super bowl "odds".

 

In 2015 Vegas odds had the Panthers winning 8 games.... (We won 15).

 

The highest projected win totals for the Panthers....

 

9.5 (2004)

and 

 

11 (2016) 

 

Tell me again how they are always spot on?

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

You are proving my point, this thread is about two things projected win totals and Vegas season start super bowl "odds".

 

In 2015 Vegas odds had the Panthers winning 8 games.... (We won 15).

 

The highest projected win totals for the Panthers....

 

9.5 (2004)

and 

 

11 (2016) 

 

Tell me again how they are always spot on?

I said "for the most part" I sure as hell said there were not 100%,  I clearly indicted there were exceptions to the rules.  But for the most part they are pretty accurate

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-nfl-win-totals-odds-predictions-best-bets-proven-expert-picks-under-six-wins-for-jets/

 

feel free to cross reference here

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I said "for the most part" I sure as hell said there were not 100%,  I clearly indicted there were exceptions to the rules.  But for the most part they are pretty accurate

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2021-nfl-win-totals-odds-predictions-best-bets-proven-expert-picks-under-six-wins-for-jets/

 

feel free to cross reference here

One season of data that just by glass is 50/50...

 

I'll import a larger data set and use an excel SQL spreadsheet to break it down for you over a larger sample size.