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Matt Rhule vs NFL coaches

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(credit to @Mage for the idea)

So after seeing a discussion of what NFL quarterbacks Matt Rhule has defeated, I wondered what his record of victories against NFL coaches looked like.

Here's the raw info...

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2020

Week 3 - Los Angeles Chargers : Anthony Lynn
• Rookie quarterback Justin Herbert's second start as a Charger; Lynn was fired at the end of the season; he finished just over 500 in his Chargers tenure

Week 4 - Arizona Cardinals : Kliff Kingsbury
• Kingsbury and Murray's second year together and the first of Kingsbury's two losses to Matt Rhule as a pro coach

Week 5 - Atlanta Falcons : Dan Quinn
• This game would be Quinn's last as he (along with GM Thomas Dimitroff) was fired following the loss which dropped the team to 0-5; interim coach Raheem Morris led the Falcons to victory over the Panthers just three weeks later in Bank of America Stadium

Week 11 - Detroit Lions : Matt Patricia
• The first of backup PJ Walker's two wins as a Panthers starter; Lions quarterback Matt Stafford played through an injury this game; Patricia and GM Robert Quinn were both fired before the season ended

Week 16 - Washington Football Team : Ron Rivera
• This was the game where Rivera stubbornly played the now late Dwayne Haskins despite a disciplinary issue during the week...and Haskins looking awful;
Rivera would come back to defeat his old team the following season with former Panther Taylor Heinecke at quarterback, largely by dismantling cornerback Donte Jackson


2021

Week 1 - New York Jets : Robert Saleh
• Saleh's first game as a rookie head coach; also Zach Wilson's first as a rookie quarterback; Sam Darnold's Panthers debut, and a victory over his former team

Week 2 - New Orleans Saints : Sean Payton (sort of)
• The game where seven members of the Saints coaching staff was sidelined with COVID; Payton and the Saints would come back to beat us in the season ender which would also turn out to be Payton's final regular season game (for the moment)

Week 3 - Houston Texans : David Culley
• Culley was fired after this, his only season as a head coach; this game was arguably Sam Darnold's best moment as a panther

Week 8 - Atlanta Falcons: Arthur Smith
• Smith and new GM Terry Fontenot's first season; they later came back and beat us in week 14

Week 10 - Arizona Cardinals : Kliff Kingsbury
• Cam Newton's comeback game; the second of backup PJ Walker's two wins as a starter; Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray was replaced by backup Colt McCoy due to injury


2022

Week 3 - New Orleans Saints : Dennis Allen
• Allen is one of the few head coaches who has a worse career winning percentage than Matt Rhule

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Analysis:

- A good portion of Rhule's victories have come against coaches that were just coming out of the gate (rookies) or on their way out the door (fired)

- Kliff Kingsbury is the only coach Matt Rhule has beaten more than once; nearly every other coach has either come back and beaten him later or been fired

- Robert Saleh and Dennis Allen are the lone exceptions; Saleh and Rhule haven't faced each other again and of course Allen only faced him yesterday

- In a similar vein, while there aren't a huge number of examples, no coach that has defeated Rhule has suffered a loss to him in a rematch

And lastly, it's probably worth remembering that some coaches who actually defeated Rhule still wound up fired at the end of their seasons.

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Just now, Waldo said:

Allen does not look like he will be lasting long in NO. 

That is such a bad list. I don't even know how they gave Kingsbury an extension when it looked like they wanted to fire him lol. 

Allen took some massive shots yesterday but I dont know if you watched Balt but holy poo Jackson is instigating hits now like cam used to and that poo isnt going to last at all

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Yep they actually might even be a better example considering everyone had pretty much written off Tua

 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

What mcdaniels is doing is fuging incredible. 

Dan Campbell's got the Lions trending up.

Kevin O'Connell's doing pretty well with the Vikings too.

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Allen took some massive shots yesterday but I dont know if you watched Balt but holy poo Jackson is instigating hits now like cam used to and that poo isnt going to last at all

I think he meant Dennis Allen. Sounds like you're talking about Josh.

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