Inside the Carolina Panthers' three seasons of quarterback failure

[Khyber53]

58 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Whether or not Collins would be considered a bust overall could probably make a decent debate.

He certainly was for us though.

I certainly can't argue against that. He was a train wreck here and it was with good riddance when he was gone. Still, he did have a career out there.

 

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

That's not what that quote meant I don't think .... The quote is in reference to Herbert's performance in that game. The article itself clarified this. That's why it starts with "even as"... And this bit RIGHT before it: "But behind the scenes, a few of the scouts who had pushed for Herbert squirmed as they watched the 22-year-old throw for 330 yards, showing the poise and command of an offense they believed could have stabilized the position for a decade or more."

 

EDIT: woops see that someone else caught this Behind a day hahah.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I certainly can't argue against that. He was a train wreck here and it was with good riddance when he was gone. Still, he did have a career out there.

I always felt they jumped the gun with him a little bit.

Frank Reich was having a bad game, yeah. But first they benched Reich, then they benched Jack Trudeau in the same game.

I'll always wonder what would have happened if they'd have just decided to take their lumps and hold off on starting Collins till he'd had a little more time.

[Khyber53]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I always felt they jumped the gun with him a little bit.

Frank Reich was having a bad game, yeah. But first they benched Reich, then they benched Jack Trudeau in the same game.

I'll always wonder what would have happened if they'd have just decided to take their lumps and hold off on starting Collins till he'd had a little more time.

You know he had to be on the bench just saying, "Put me in coach, put me in..." 

Me, I think you should sit every newly drafted QB for a year behind a vet QB. Even if that vet is just a journeyman. But I don't have millions of fans breathing down my neck to make something happen right now, either.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Can't argue with that. Rhule was a massive mistake for this organization.

Hopefully Tepper will get some outside help with the scouting department. Because I would bet that's a total mess with how much control Rhule had. Getting a new head coach with strong ties to a good organization would go really far as well. Just like it worked out in Buffalo. They went from joke to contender because of that. 

[Mr. Scot]

Side Note...

[Basbear]

7 hours ago, Snake said:

Look noob, the only person seething is you about my posts. It ok to have different opinions. 

this is you-

 

you can keep pouting , Im going to keep pounding!!!!

[Davidson Deac II]

On 10/26/2022 at 9:28 AM, Snake said:

Boy how I don't want to read that. Not only did we pick 3 dud QBs, run off our franchise QB, but also not take Fields who is looking more and more like a franchise QB. Complete failure in the QB department. 

Fields is great, as long as the Bears don't let him throw the ball much.  42 runs, 21 passes last week. Four passes in the second half.    

Edited October 28, 2022 by Davidson Deac II

[Snake]

15 hours ago, Basbear said:

this is you-

 

you can keep pouting , Im going to keep pounding!!!!

You're the one getting all worked up kid. Posting your insults and pictures. Don't worry your ball will drop soon. 

 

 

 

 

Probably not as fast as my balls drop into your mom though. I'll keep pounding her. 

Edited October 28, 2022 by Snake

[Snake]

8 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fields is great, as long as the Bears don't let him throw the ball much.  42 runs, 21 passes last week. Four passes in the second half.    

He's progressing. The bears actually figured out it was a bad idea to keep a young QB behind a bad line. That was the difference in the NE game. They moved him around to create opportunity. Fields is still going to make some bone head plays but if the bears invest in a better line his numbers will jump. 

[poundaway]

Fitterer's logic on the option, per a front office source, was this: The two-year payout would be reasonable, considering Darnold's $4.7 million due in 2021, and he'd be much more expensive if he lit up the field that season. Tepper, per a team source, questioned placing that value on Darnold so early in his relationship with the team but "reluctantly" approved, a source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said.

[poundaway]

As the losses mounted, Tepper's blood boiled, with one front office source describing him as "furious" over the way Darnold's fifth-year option hung over the franchise. (A source close to the owner said the "furious" characterization was too strong).

[poundaway]

Front office sources say Fitterer liked Trubisky to compete with Darnold for the starting job, but Trubisky eventually signed a two-year, $14.285 million deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers -- which offered a clearer path to a starting job.

[Davidson Deac II]

7 hours ago, Snake said:

He's progressing. The bears actually figured out it was a bad idea to keep a young QB behind a bad line. That was the difference in the NE game. They moved him around to create opportunity. Fields is still going to make some bone head plays but if the bears invest in a better line his numbers will jump. 

He had one decent game.  And other teams will watch the film, and eventually be prepared for the changes the Bears made.  And they will need to adapt again.  And eventually, he will have to show he can be a successful pocket passer.   

PJ Walker had a far better game against Tampa.  In fact, PJ's game against Tampa was a better game than Fields has had in any of his 19 starts.  Not that I think PJ is going to be a good NFL qb, but at this point, he is probably better than Fields.