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Crazy Idea: Sign UFA Minshew, Draft a TE

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13 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Still rather draft a QB early over a TE 

Ok, who is he going to throw to?  Thomas?  Sullivan?  Tremble?  Shi Smith?  TMJ?  The cupbord is bare my friend.  Sometimes the sexy pick isn't the BEST pick.

Since the Steelers have locked down Moore after the second quarter, Darnold has had nobody to throw to.

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20 hours ago, Stuart Smith said:

Dan Arnold was not a great run blocker, if he had been he might still be here.

Correct, but you would not bringing him (or a similar player) in as a cheap vet because of his run blocking.  It would be about adding a skill set that is missing from the TE room to bridge until hopefully a good draft pick gets up to speed.

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On 12/14/2022 at 6:32 AM, MHS831 said:

Now that we are out of the running for a top QB in this draft--and I doubt we have the capital to move up--I say take a close look at Gardner Minshew.  Draft a stud Offensive weapon TE instead.

The Minshew deal would remind me of the Jake Delhomme acquisition.  We would have a 26-27 year old QB who is a fiery leader.  A solid OL, and a new tool for the offense--today's NFL offenses need a productive receiving TE.  If we continue to run the ball, you do not need a $50m QB.

With the way the Defense is playing, and if we can improve the Offense at 2 spots (TE, QB), I think the Panthers would be in "win now" mode. 

I am just speculating for fun, and I realize there are hundreds of scenarios, but I have always liked Minshew and I think, in the right system, he could be very good.

TE would be a stretch at 8 or lower so i would expect us to trade back and take the TE from Notre Dame or wait until round 2. There are a couple of good edge rushers and a wr who would fit nicely at 8. If we take Anthony Richardson at 8, we will have to wait at least three years before he is deemed a bust and dropped like a bad habit.  

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On 12/14/2022 at 1:24 PM, CarolinaLivin said:

I know what you’re saying. But do you not see yourself settling for less? Not saying jake was terrible or having someone of his level/skillset isn’t an improvement of what we currently have. Didn’t mean to make it look like i was bashing him that hard lol

we settle for less because less is all that is available right now.

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I still say this is the best route.  We are looking at QB4, possibly QB3.  Sorry, but Richardson and/or Levis just doesn't get me excited.  Two big arms, but one consistently under-performed and the other is as raw as sushi straight off the boat.

Build the team and then find the QB rather than find the QB and try to build the rest of the team around him.  This is the way.  Anyone who thinks this team is only QB away is at homer level-10 or just completely oblivious.  They are a scrappy bunch and Wilks has them playing about the best they can, but teams with superior talent will eventually win the day against an over-matched club playing above their means.

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25 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I still say this is the best route.  We are looking at QB4, possibly QB3.  Sorry, but Richardson and/or Levis just doesn't get me excited.  Two big arms, but one consistently under-performed and the other is as raw as sushi straight off the boat.

Build the team and then find the QB rather than find the QB and try to build the rest of the team around him.  This is the way.  Anyone who thinks this team is only QB away is at homer level-10 or just completely oblivious.  They are a scrappy bunch and Wilks has them playing about the best they can, but teams with superior talent will eventually win the day against an over-matched club playing above their means.

And we have a measuring stick---we lost our #2 WR and our all pro RB---We added a few pieces to the OL.  We have zilch at TE.  Darnold is playing better because the running game is better.  A game manager may be all we have moving forward, but a game manager really needs a solid TE.

I mean, don't draft a Levis or Richardson in round 1, giving them 3-4 years to bust.  I think a solid Defense, strong OL, and a top notch TE is better.

The QB I tend to like (considering the draft position I think he will be available) is Tune from Houston.  To me, I do not see much of a gap between him and Levis or Richardson.

Richardson is a poor man's Cam Newton, slightly smaller and a bit faster.  But completing 50% of your passes when defenses are shadowing the QB and containing him in the pocket?  Not impressive.

We simply win too many games to get a top QB and we lose too many games to be a serious contender.  We strive for mediocrity.

 

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6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

And we have a measuring stick---we lost our #2 WR and our all pro RB---We added a few pieces to the OL.  We have zilch at TE.  Darnold is playing better because the running game is better.  A game manager may be all we have moving forward, but a game manager really needs a solid TE.

I mean, don't draft a Levis or Richardson in round 1, giving them 3-4 years to bust.  I think a solid Defense, strong OL, and a top notch TE is better.

The QB I tend to like (considering the draft position I think he will be available) is Tune from Houston.  To me, I do not see much of a gap between him and Levis or Richardson.

Richardson is a poor man's Cam Newton, slightly smaller and a bit faster.  But completing 50% of your passes when defenses are shadowing the QB and containing him in the pocket?  Not impressive.

We simply win too many games to get a top QB and we lose too many games to be a serious contender.  We strive for mediocrity.

 

The 49ers come to mind.  It seems no matter who they put behind center, solid coaching with weapons surrounding their QB de jour paired with a smothering defense is a winning recipe.  Freaking Brock Purdy looks good for crying out loud. 

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On 12/27/2022 at 9:35 AM, 45catfan said:

The 49ers come to mind.  It seems no matter who they put behind center, solid coaching with weapons surrounding their QB de jour paired with a smothering defense is a winning recipe.  Freaking Brock Purdy looks good for crying out loud. 

And throughout history--there have been teams to win the super bowl with mediocre qbs--Jim Plunkett, Hostetler, Brad Johnson, trent dilfer, doug williams, etc.  So it can be done, but all other pieces were in place. 

In the era now where QBs are costing 25% of the cap, it could change the way GMs build rosters.  I mean, Denver and Cleveland fans have to be very nervous right now.

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