Coaching interview updates

[UNCrules2187]

Understand Kafka’s stance when you’re full bore on a playoff run, but tough for teams to wait 2 weeks to place their coaching search on a holding pattern when they’ll need to build a staff as well. The only thing that’s working in his favor is that none of the openings have yet been filled. 

Edited January 16, 2023 by UNCrules2187

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's the thing about a potential Johnson / Fangio pairing...

One of the things that helped Johnson rise to prominence was that he figured out a flaw in some Fangio defensive concepts commonly used around the league.

Pairing an older guy whose defensive concepts are copied everywhere with a younger guy who figured out a way to beat those concepts creates an "iron sharpens iron" situation which I would be absolutely all for.

That does sound like a great balanced prospective combo.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Well for one, unrelated but Gase was also 36 when he got his first HC role.

Both came out of the NFCN. 

Both were various position coaches before becoming OCs.

Johnson was OC for 1 year.

Gase was technically OC for 2 years in Denver (but Manning was there so he was the real OC) then 1 year OC in Chicago.

Both were/are being talked about as hot-poo OCs that are/were going to innovate the game.

I agree, their offense is different. Johnson’s is much less complex than what Gase ran.

Also, what team that Johnson has been apart of (ever) had success in the NFL?

How many unsuccessful teams was Bill Belichick a part of before the Patriots?

Likewise, Kliff Kingsbury and Sean McVay both coach in the NFC West. Does that make them similar?

Pretty much all of that is a huge reach.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Understand Kafka’s stance when you’re full bore on a playoff run, but tough for teams to wait 2 weeks to place their coaching search on a holding pattern when they’ll need to build a staff as well. The only thing that’s working in his favor is that none of the openings have yet been filled. 

There's usually one domino, and then the others start falling fast.

[UNCrules2187]

10 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Well for one, unrelated but Gase was also 36 when he got his first HC role.
 

Both came out of the NFCN. 

Both were various position coaches before becoming OCs.

Johnson was OC for 1 year.

Gase was technically OC for 2 years in Denver (but Manning was there so he was the real OC) then 1 year OC in Chicago. 
 

Both were/are being talked about as hot-poo OCs that are/were going to innovate the game.

I agree, their offense is different. Johnson’s is much less complex than what Gase ran. 
 

Also, what team that Johnson has been apart of (ever) had success in the NFL?

/cdn-cgi/mirage/c011b6ca8ae33802d696ef307637bb1ccac9a89e45b8ad3ff58afef5aa5c4032/1280/https://www.carolinahuddle.com/uploads/monthly_2023_01/BE54B204-80F9-4475-9B0D-B58FF5056B54.thumb.jpeg.51077311982571bad61b1d3a01e2f9a2.jpeg

/cdn-cgi/mirage/c011b6ca8ae33802d696ef307637bb1ccac9a89e45b8ad3ff58afef5aa5c4032/1280/https://www.carolinahuddle.com/uploads/monthly_2023_01/45E8A73B-7DCF-46A8-B8C5-EA533B967E8C.thumb.jpeg.d5a33e1a008c693fb61ad844302bc5e2.jpeg

/cdn-cgi/mirage/c011b6ca8ae33802d696ef307637bb1ccac9a89e45b8ad3ff58afef5aa5c4032/1280/https://www.carolinahuddle.com/uploads/monthly_2023_01/7DE6D119-53C2-49CA-953C-4C150B35B6D3.thumb.jpeg.36f40b6cfcf87f16d0a06227ca426595.jpeg

/cdn-cgi/mirage/c011b6ca8ae33802d696ef307637bb1ccac9a89e45b8ad3ff58afef5aa5c4032/1280/https://www.carolinahuddle.com/uploads/monthly_2023_01/6FCCF916-6E6E-4234-8224-5772EB0AD9E6.thumb.jpeg.9ddc0697695c67e8658f87e9221842e1.jpeg

The funniest part of this is “both were various positional coaches before becoming coordinators”. Oh, you mean like 99% of all head coaches ever?

[t96]

Fangio has been strongly linked with Payton as his preferred choice for DC. Wonder what that means...

[Cdparr7]

5 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

The funniest part of this is “both were various positional coaches before becoming coordinators”. Oh, you mean like 99% of all head coaches ever?

I’m just saying they give me the same vibes I didn’t say he was Gase incarnate. 
 

He’s 36 years old and never been on a team that sniffed success in the NFL. Has called plays for 1 season, and everyone is ready to hand him over the keys because he’s an “offensive guy”.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

Fangio has been strongly linked with Payton as his preferred choice for DC. Wonder what that means...

Nada

[Cdparr7]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many unsuccessful teams was Bill Belichick a part of before the Patriots?

Likewise, Kliff Kingsbury and Sean McVay both coach in the NFC West. Does that make them similar?

Pretty much all of that is a huge reach.

Well I can actually answer that about Bill Belichick.

1975- Baltimore Colts Playoffs

1978- Denver Broncos-Won division 

1979-1990- Went to the playoffs 6 times and won 2 Super Bowls while in various roles. Also spent time under Parcells. 

1994-Went to the playoff with the Browns as HC

1996- Went to the Super Bowl with the Patriots as DBs coach.

1998- Went to playoffs as Jets DC

So yeah, had some success prior, compared to Ben Johnson hardly sniffing the playoffs.
 

Edited January 16, 2023 by Cdparr7

[t96]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nada

He was also Harbaugh's DC in SF... If this interview has nothing to do with Payton or Harbaugh or another candidate we already have plans to hire then it's significantly more concerning. Tepper should not be dictating to HC candidates who their staff is, he shouldn't even be interviewing coordinator candidates, that should entirely be up to the HC.

[Khaki Lackey]

2 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Fangio kinda concerns me bc he's a 3-4 guy but Panthers have 4-3 personnel. Don't get me wrong he's fantastic but the defense will have some serious growing pains

It's not like we have a bunch of prototypical 4-3 studs. If we were going to switch, now would be as good of a time as any.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

He was also Harbaugh's DC in SF... If this interview has nothing to do with Payton or Harbaugh or another candidate we already have plans to hire then it's significantly more concerning. Tepper should not be dictating to HC candidates who their staff is, he shouldn't even be interviewing coordinator candidates, that should entirely be up to the HC.

We're also interviewing Marquand Manuel.

Who's that related to?

[Pazhoosier89]

Ben Johnson was on staff at BC when Luke Kuechly was there. I  would love to see him come on as a LB coach learning from a veteran DC like Fangio.

[t96]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

We're also interviewing Marquand Manuel.

Who's that related to?

Required for Rooney rule