Sam Darnold had the 13th worst QB win in NFL history if we measured passer rating

[Krovvy]

2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Yeah, for all the wrong reasons.

Apparently.

[ECHornet]

1 minute ago, KSpan said:

I couldn't watch yesterday. Did they win because of Sam, in spite of Sam, or a little bit of both at various times?

In spite of, but he did land the coveted "game winning drive."

[Brooklyn 3.0]

1 minute ago, KSpan said:

I couldn't watch yesterday. Did they win because of Sam, in spite of Sam, or a little bit of both at various times?

The Saints threw the game. We should have lost.

[Krovvy]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

"Every conceivable metric" - except the ones from this season.

Yeah, so let's take his career year and extrapolate then.

He had a 58% completion percentage, 1,100 yards, 7 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and 6 fumbles in 6 games.

So, Sam would have 3238 Yards, 20 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 17 fumbles in the now 17 game season.

Keep digging holes boys.

[glenwo2]

4 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Yeah, so let's take his career year and extrapolate then.

He had a 58% completion percentage, 1,100 yards, 7 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and 6 fumbles in 6 games.

So, Sam would have 3238 Yards, 20 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 17 fumbles in the now 17 game season.

Keep digging holes boys.

Uhh....those numbers (aside from the fumbles) aren't too bad.  

I don't think this is helping your argument much.

[ECHornet]

3 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Yeah, so let's take his career year and extrapolate then.

He had a 58% completion percentage, 1,100 yards, 7 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and 6 fumbles in 6 games.

So, Sam would have 3238 Yards, 20 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 17 fumbles in the now 17 game season.

Keep digging holes boys.

3238 Yards - 15th in the NFL

20 Pass TDs - 15th in the NFL

9 INTs - Tied at 15th worst in the NFL

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Yeah, so let's take his career year and extrapolate then.

He had a 58% completion percentage, 1,100 yards, 7 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and 6 fumbles in 6 games.

So, Sam would have 3238 Yards, 20 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 17 fumbles in the now 17 game season.

Keep digging holes boys.

Seems a bit weird to throw in fumbles versus fumbles lost and exclude rushing TDs.  He's more like 9 TDs, 5 turnovers, 1250 total yards in 6 games. Still hardly impressive.

He's good for 3-4 "decent" games, at a backup level, before he falls flat on his face it seems. I guess that is why backups are backups and not starters.

Time to move on. Maybe he'll find success elsewhere. Maybe he'll be out of the league in a few years. But unless he's coming back for pennies as a backup / bridge for 4 weeks until we put our new rookie QB out there, I don't want him on the team.

[Gerry Green]

12 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

And before yesterday he had a string of games that made him one of the best QBs in the league. People have bad games. He should not be our starter ... but damn, some of you just can't let it go. It's like you're trying to prove Sam is bad. We know he is. Or, you want to stand on your soap box and go, SEE I TOLD YOU! But you're speaking to like ... 1-3 guys on here lol.

 

There are ppl that would be ok with Sam as a bridge. In the right circumstances. But as a starter? Not many want to hitch their wagon to that particular choice.

[glenwo2]

11 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

And before yesterday he had a string of games that made him one of the best QBs in the league. People have bad games. He should not be our starter ... but damn, some of you just can't let it go. It's like you're trying to prove Sam is bad. We know he is. Or, you want to stand on your soap box and go, SEE I TOLD YOU! But you're speaking to like ... 1-3 guys on here lol.

It almost seems like they are mad that he didn't just suck from the get-go as soon as he started his first game back from injury so the narrative can be resumed.  

11 minutes ago, KSpan said:

I couldn't watch yesterday. Did they win because of Sam, in spite of Sam, or a little bit of both at various times?

Both.  

Sam stunk but there were hardly any open receivers to throw to and he forced a couple which resulted (obviously) in INTs.  

Then, the Saints missed a FG late (some say they deliberately "tanked it" though I don't believe that as they are grown men trying to win a football game, too), Sam had a key Scramble/Run for a first down followed 2 plays later by a key throw to TMJ to set up the game-winner.

 

[ECHornet]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Seems a bit weird to throw in fumbles versus fumbles lost and exclude rushing TDs.  He's more like 9 TDs, 5 turnovers, 1250 total yards in 6 games. Still hardly impressive.

He's good for 3-4 "decent" games, at a backup level, before he falls flat on his face it seems. I guess that is why backups are backups and not starters.

Time to move on. Maybe he'll find success elsewhere. Maybe he'll be out of the league in a few years. But unless he's coming back for pennies as a backup / bridge for 4 weeks until we put our new rookie QB out there, I don't want him on the team.

He played right around middle of the pack for starting QBs in the league during his 6 game stretch. Fortunately, we might be able to sign him to a cheap, back up level contract.

[Gerry Green]

9 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Yeah, so let's take his career year and extrapolate then.

He had a 58% completion percentage, 1,100 yards, 7 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and 6 fumbles in 6 games.

So, Sam would have 3238 Yards, 20 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 17 fumbles in the now 17 game season.

Keep digging holes boys.

 

Um...  lol

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

lol that people actually fell for darnolds decent start once again

[glenwo2]

Just now, ECHornet said:

He played right around middle of the pack for starting QBs in the league during his 6 game stretch. Fortunately, we might be able to sign him to a cheap, back up level contract.

Nah.  He's not being brought back.

mav said so, so that's that. 

So what else is on TV?  *click*

[mav1234]

Just now, ECHornet said:

He played right around middle of the pack for starting QBs in the league during his 6 game stretch. Fortunately, we might be able to sign him to a cheap, back up level contract.

If Darnold had even had something close to a decent game yesterday I'd be more on board with that, but man, I just don't see the point. There are going to be other backups that have higher ceilings, lots of journeyman vets that could start the entire year without looking like garbage while AR or Levis develops behind them, etc.