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Is A.R a smaller C.Newton in the rough?

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AggieLean Grand Master

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34 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Thank you for making my point I made yesterday: People want Cam so bad they want to draft a worse version of him.

And if they want another Cam, why does it bother you? 
 

Remember, like you said, every team has fan favorites 

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

And if they want another Cam, why does it bother you? 

I can't answer for him, but I can answer the question.

Basing your evaluation of a quarterback on his similarity to a previous favorite player is kinda silly.

If you want to win, what you should be looking for is the best quarterback who fits your system available now. You're not looking for nostalgia, you're looking for competence.

Maybe that's someone with similarities to a previous favorite, maybe it's not. Either way, prioritizing that as part of your search is a pretty good path to making a poor decision.

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't answer for him, but I can answer the question.

Basing your evaluation of a quarterback on his similarity to a previous favorite player is kinda silly.

If you want to win, what you should be looking for is the best quarterback who fits your system available now. You're not looking for nostalgia, you're looking for competence.

Maybe that's someone with similarities to a previous favorite, maybe it's not. Either way, prioritizing that as part of your search is a pretty good path to making a poor decision.

The people on these boards don’t make player selections. If they want someone like Cam, that’s fine. 

The posters on here wanting another Cam bother you?

 

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4 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

The people on these boards don’t make player selections. If they want someone like Cam, that’s fine. 

The posters on here wanting another Cam bother you?

Wouldn't so much say it bothers me as I just think it's kinda silly.

Getting "the next (insert name here)" Is something I see a lot. Levis will be the next Josh Allen, somebody else will be the next Aaron Rodgers, etc etc.

Said elsewhere that I know a lot of internet draftniks like using pro comparisons, but to me it's sort of lazy. Just evaluate their strengths and weaknesses rather than trying to make them the next whomever.

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19 hours ago, Jmac said:

Question...I know he has raw ability and potential much like Cam did back in the day.

Not saying that he is as talented as Cam was, but do you think he has enough raw skills to develop (with proper coaching) into a decent QB.

What you got?

I think he's more like Josh Allen. Seems to have the release and presence in the pocket to become a Josh Allen type which, in my opinion, is better than Cam Newton. 

If he's the choice, especially with Reich and a power run game, I won't be mad at it. Trade up into the first to take Jalyn Hyatt out of Tennessee to give you Moore, Hyatt, and Marshall, along with re-signing Foreman, and I'm good. I'd be good seeing Richardson start as a rookie if we have enough talent around him. 

I also trust we have a head coach who knows how to run Training Camp unlike Matt Rhule. 

The one thing I do not want is for the Panthers to trade our 1st this year and next year along with more 2nd or 3rd round picks to move up for Levis, Stroud, or Young. 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Wouldn't so much say it bothers me as I just think it's kinda silly.

Getting "the next (insert name here)" Is something I see a lot. Levis will be the next Josh Allen, somebody else will be the next Aaron Rodgers, etc etc.

Said elsewhere that I know a lot of internet draftniks like using pro comparisons, but to me it's sort of lazy. Just evaluate their strengths and weaknesses rather than trying to make them the next whomever.

People compare Levis to Allen because they are white. Anthony Richardson is far closer to Josh Allen than anyone I've seen in quite a while. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wouldn't so much say it bothers me as I just think it's kinda silly.

Getting "the next (insert name here)" Is something I see a lot. Levis will be the next Josh Allen, somebody else will be the next Aaron Rodgers, etc etc.

Said elsewhere that I know a lot of internet draftniks like using pro comparisons, but to me it's sort of lazy. Just evaluate their strengths and weaknesses rather than trying to make them the next whomever.

Have you commented on the others who have made these comparisons, or did you just decide to wait and comment when Cam came up? There have been quite a few Levis/Josh Allen comparisons.

 

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1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

Have you commented on the others who have made these comparisons, or did you just decide to wait and comment when Cam came up? There have been quite a few Levis/Josh Allen comparisons.

Just did...

But no, that's not my first time. Hence why I said I don't like those kind of comparisons in general.

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