I have a feeling...

[Wundrbread33]

42 minutes ago, rayzor said:

one thing that always gets me is looking at games as a face off between two QBs. it's never that. it's QB vs. a defense. that's it. 

QBs can't win games if their defense can't stop the other team from scoring. you've got to make sure you have 2 things... 1) a QB that can generate a lot of scores and 2) a defense that can keep the other QB from scoring more than what your QB can generate. 

the more your QB is capable of scoring, the better off you are. the more your defense is able to shut down the other QB, the better off you are. if you have both of these, you're going to win a championship.

Yeah example number 1 will always be (for me) Dan Marino not winning a Super Bowl. 
 

There will always be that person(s) who will put that on Marino and try to take away from what he did. 
 

Then there are those who know it’s not that simple. 

[frankw]

1 hour ago, L-TownCat said:

The Raiders defense being historically the worst ever, isn’t an endorsement of Carr.

It means the Raiders suck and should be laughed at.

For sure the Raiders are a mess and have been for years. But there's a good chance they come away looking better at QB than us when it's all said and done even if it's a small upgrade. We laughed at the Jets and took Sam off their hands. Their QB room looked better than ours. We laughed at the Browns and took Baker off their hands. We lost to them led by Jacoby Brissett. At some point we have to learn some level of a lesson from these swings we keep making.

[frankw]

Now let's drag Dan Marino into the Carr debate. The cope knows no bounds.

[Verge]

I doubt Carr would except anything less than a multi-year deal as the guy for the next five or so years. 

[Proudiddy]

2 minutes ago, Verge said:

I doubt Carr would except anything less than a multi-year deal as the guy for the next five or so years. 

Again, just speculation on my part here, Verge...  but, I was saying this under the guise of us giving him 2, maybe 3 years max.  I think his decision with us is going to hinge on if he's willing to accept that here.  It's likely NO or NYJ would give him 5 years.

[pantherclaw]

Carr is looking for a team to compete with for a championship.  This means, stop arguing his contract, if he wants to be here,  and the front office wants him to be here. He will absolutely be here. 

I know in today's NFL where the rookies just play because of stupidity is the norm.  Nevermind that it's just better to have a vet that can not just lead, but win now, while the drafted QB, rides the pine.

For what Tepper, and this coaching staff was hired for - ie, sustained winning every season - then you folks better get use to the idea of the team doing something you may not care for. 

Edited March 2, 2023 by pantherclaw

[Jon Snow]

27 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Carr is looking for a team to compete with for a championship.  This means, stop arguing his contract, if he wants to be here,  and the front office wants him to be here. He will absolutely be here. 

I know in today's NFL where the rookies just play because of stupidity is the norm.  Nevermind that it's just better to have a vet that can not just lead, but win now, while the drafted QB, rides the pine.

For what Tepper, and this coaching staff was hired for - ie, sustained winning every season - then you folks better get use to the idea of the team doing something you may not care for. 

[glenwo2]

19 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I know in today's NFL where the rookies just play because of stupidity is the norm.  Nevermind that it's just better to have a vet that can not just lead, but win now, while the drafted QB, rides the pine.

For what Tepper, and this coaching staff was hired for - ie, sustained winning every season - then you folks better get use to the idea of the team doing something you may not care for. 

Even if it's the unthinkable like :

 

lol.   BURN, WORLD.   BURN! 

Edited March 3, 2023 by glenwo2