Playoffs or bust

[NAS]

Several of the recent posters don't understand the topic here.  It's expectations of the season.

All I'm saying is I'm not willing to lower my expectations for what this coaching staff and GM needs to achieve this year.  This same offensive line won 7 games last year.  This same defense has now been upgraded, so expect them to perform better this year.   QB, while a rookie, is still supposed to be better and give us a better chance to win than Baker or Darnold, or PJ Walker,  etc. etc. etc. 

That's the topic.  Playoff or bust is the expectation.

Edited August 14, 2023 by NAS

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Several of the recent posters don't understand the topic here.  It's expectations of the season.

All I'm saying is I'm not willing to lower my expectations for what this coaching staff and GM needs to achieve this year.  This same offensive line won 7 games last year.  This same defense has now been upgraded, so expect them to perform better this year.   QB, while a rookie, is still supposed to be better and give us a better chance to win than Baker or Darnold, or PJ Walker,  etc. etc. etc. 

That's the topic.  Playoff or bust is the expectation.

You are peddling in optimism not realism.   

[Jon Snow]

The 1st offseason for a new staff that has to use the majority of someone else's players. Wilks had the benefit of being here long enough to establish chemistry with the players who he had already coached. The 2 situations are not remotely the same. Also it's a new season and a fresh start. No matter how much you want to expect playoffs, it ain't happening this season. 

Also, it will take another offseason for Frank to assemble enough of his own type players before you can judge what kind of coach he's going to be. Expecting playoffs now is a fools errand. 

[Sgt Schultz]

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The 1st offseason for a new staff that has to use the majority of someone else's players. Wilks had the benefit of being here long enough to establish chemistry with the players who he had already coached. The 2 situations are not remotely the same. Also it's a new season and a fresh start. No matter how much you want to expect playoffs, it ain't happening this season. 

Also, it will take another offseason for Frank to assemble enough of his own type players before you can judge what kind of coach he's going to be. Expecting playoffs now is a fools errand. 

Yessir.  And I also think there was a significant part of the locker room that, entering last year, was ready for a change.  Whenever you have a clown trying to control everything while at the same time clearly being 6 feet of man in 15 feet of water, that happens. 

So when the ax fell and Wilks was put in charge, it represented a return to sanity for them.  Suddenly, the stuff that really mattered mattered.  And the nonsense was flushed away.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Several of the recent posters don't understand the topic here.  It's expectations of the season.

All I'm saying is I'm not willing to lower my expectations for what this coaching staff and GM needs to achieve this year.  This same offensive line won 7 games last year.  This same defense has now been upgraded, so expect them to perform better this year.   QB, while a rookie, is still supposed to be better and give us a better chance to win than Baker or Darnold, or PJ Walker,  etc. etc. etc. 

That's the topic.  Playoff or bust is the expectation.

That’s YOUR expectation. Realistic fans don’t expect much this year. 
 

There’s a lot of new pieces, and no strong teams leaders yet that I’m aware of. Team chemistry is a big factor and we don’t know if these guys can effectively play together yet.

Edited August 14, 2023 by Move the Panthers to Raleigh

[NAS]

33 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

That’s YOUR expectation. Realistic fans don’t expect much this year. 
 

There’s a lot of new pieces, and no strong teams leaders yet that I’m aware of. Team chemistry is a big factor and we don’t know if these guys can effectively play together yet.

Yes they’re my expectations and others clearly agree. Who are you to speak for what’s realistic? 
 

winning this weak division IS realistic 

[mrcompletely11]

41 minutes ago, NAS said:

Yes they’re my expectations and others clearly agree. Who are you to speak for what’s realistic? 
 

winning this weak division IS realistic 

You may want to give vegas a heads up then

[LinvilleGorge]

I definitely don't think it's playoffs or bust. Too many variables in that. Quality of the division, quality of the conference, injury bug breaking the right way, etc. I just want to see competency and hope that the organization is heading the right direction. Basically the opposite of what we saw on Saturday.