Big fan of Burns but...

[Jackie Lee]

 

[CRA]

59 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Chubb is getting 22m a year and Burns is gonna get more than that. He's gonna be closer to Garret and Bosa than to Chubb. No other way about it. 

Then it’s a front office failure.   Should of traded him.

No other way about it.  

and that’s why teams like the Eagles win and we don’t.   They paid an elite pass rusher 15 a year.  A better one than Burns. 
 

 

[carpanfan96]

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

Then it’s a front office failure.   Should of traded him.

No other way about it.  

and that’s why teams like the Eagles win and we don’t.   They paid an elite pass rusher 15 a year.  A better one than Burns. 
 

 

Look at the athletic article thread, been trying to tell everyone he was asking for Bosa level money. 

[Sgt Schultz]

25 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I'm sure we're gonna get called kids, children, etc., by those who are emotionally attached to Fitterer and excessive use of emojis, but it has to be said. 

He's the next casualty on this ship.

If he was the one who decided to turn down the Rams offer and then they ultimately lose Burns in FA or have to deal him for a much lower haul, it is a pretty big indictment.

Problem for him is even if it was Tepper who put the brakes on the Rams deal, Fitterer is in the fall guy position. 

As somebody said on this or one of the 372 other Burns threads, once you turned down that deal, you better start talking about an extension.  I get it, the didn't have any idea who would be the HC or what the DC was going to run, but you have already shown you hand.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Look at the athletic article thread, been trying to tell everyone he was asking for Bosa level money. 

I’m not saying he isn’t arguing for it.  I’m saying the Panthers shouldn’t pay that and if they drastically overpay him it’s a front office failure.  Fitt should have traded him. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

36 minutes ago, App Panther said:

I'm starting to believe he is just not that guy. Say what you want about Hurney, but he kept our stars signed and very rarely would something like this occur. 

If we lose Burns for less than 2 firsts, he should 100% be fired

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Look at the athletic article thread, been trying to tell everyone he was asking for Bosa level money. 

Everyone knows what he wants. The problem is giving it to him when he’s not even worth Crosby money. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I’m not saying he isn’t arguing for it.  I’m saying the Panthers shouldn’t pay that and if they drastically overpay him it’s a front office failure.  Fitt should have traded him. 

I can't even blame Burns. Some moronic team will pay him 30+ mill a year and be regretting it after a year. Sadly, it will probably be us

[carpanfan96]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Everyone knows what he wants. The problem is giving it to him when he’s not even worth Crosby money. 

The Panthers think he's worth 23-24m a season. That's what they came at him with and well he didn't say yes..  let's say that. 

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

If he was the one who decided to turn down the Rams offer and then they ultimately lose Burns in FA or have to deal him for a much lower haul, it is a pretty big indictment.

Problem for him is even if it was Tepper who put the brakes on the Rams deal, Fitterer is in the fall guy position. 

As somebody said on this or one of the 372 other Burns threads, once you turned down that deal, you better start talking about an extension.  I get it, the didn't have any idea who would be the HC or what the DC was going to run, but you have already shown you hand.

Tapper was fine with trading the face of the franchise just a week earlier. He didn’t stop anything involving Burns. 

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

If we lose Burns for less than 2 firsts, he should 100% be fired

You can’t get 2 first for him now. That was a desperate team being desperate and we opted not to take advantage….and then put ourselves in a poor negotiating position. 

[carpanfan96]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I’m not saying he isn’t arguing for it.  I’m saying the Panthers shouldn’t pay that and if they drastically overpay him it’s a front office failure.  Fitt should have traded him. 

Oh they won't pay 30m, he'll get something around 25-27m a season and have a high guarantee amount above what Garret and Watt got. 

[Toomers]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

The Panthers think he's worth 23-24m a season. That's what they came at him with and well he didn't say yes..  let's say that. 

Why would he say yes. After that non-trade, they cost themselves 7-10M/yr on his deal. Burns and his agent know this. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I can't even blame Burns. Some moronic team will pay him 30+ mill a year and be regretting it after a year. Sadly, it will probably be us

I think we are the only team dumb enough to think Burns and 30ish would go together.   And his team frankly has us in a weird spot when we turned down a trade we frankly should have made.  

The front office remains a problem.