Peter King on Fox

[Gazi]

We need to go after Billick, Cowher or Shanahan.

[Delhommey]

Um, the Steelers had to fight to get under the cap this year.

Can we please stop being dumb?

[Darknight]

I'd probably get flamed for this but why go after Cowher, Shanahan or Billick?

I believe The Big Cat is trying to mimic the Steelers in every way possible. We already have a dominate running game. Every time the Steelers hired a new HC, I believed they hired young promising coaches (Noll, Cowher, Tomlin) in their upper 30s

I guess what I am trying to say is that if the Big Cat is really trying to mimic the Steelers, I don't think he will go after those coaches.

[Saint J]

The only thing anyone has said that makes any sense in this thread is that Peter King's a tool.

Lofty tool, true tool.

[Squirrel]

Fox is a good coach his basic design for the team is what will win you championships. But with that said he is to loyal to his veterans and he's to conservative when he gets the lead. If he would just change those two things I wouldnt mind him back.

[SMACKDAB]

Fox is a good coach his basic design for the team is what will win you championships. But with that said he is to loyal to his veterans and he's to conservative when he gets the lead. If he would just change those two things I wouldnt mind him back.

I have to say I agree 100%.

[Jrock3016]

I'd probably get flamed for this but why go after Cowher, Shanahan or Billick?

I believe The Big Cat is trying to mimic the Steelers in every way possible. We already have a dominate running game. Every time the Steelers hired a new HC, I believed they hired young promising coaches (Noll, Cowher, Tomlin) in their upper 30s

I guess what I am trying to say is that if the Big Cat is really trying to mimic the Steelers, I don't think he will go after those coaches.

Steelers didn't run off those coaches either...

[Jrock3016]

The problem is throughout the league everyone thinks Fox is a good coach. Well except people here on this board. I don't see what the problem is. If he coaches well, we try to make a deal with him, if not he becomes a FA and we look for another coach. For the record I would extend him with a favorable buy out clause, but I also think he is a good coach so I am in the minority around here. I give much much more credit to Dick Labeau that I do Cowher.

The problem is some of the fans on here act according to their emotions and what they heard in the news instead of thinking logically by themselves.

[Wither]

The problem is throughout the league everyone thinks Fox is a good coach. Well except people here on this board. I don't see what the problem is. If he coaches well, we try to make a deal with him, if not he becomes a FA and we look for another coach. For the record I would extend him with a favorable buy out clause, but I also think he is a good coach so I am in the minority around here. I give much much more credit to Dick Labeau that I do Cowher.

I agree that I see no problem here, just a bunch of disgruntled fans looking for any excuse to hate someone for the season.

The only thing anyone has said that makes any sense in this thread is that Peter King's a tool.

Except for the aforementioned post, I agree.

The problem is some of the fans on here act according to their emotions and what they heard in the news instead of thinking logically by themselves.

And the newcomer is right!

[AceMan]

The problem is some of the fans on here act according to their emotions and what they heard in the news instead of thinking logically by themselves.

I agree that I see no problem here, just a bunch of disgruntled fans looking for any excuse to hate someone for the season.

And what do you guys expect people to do? Be happy or indifferent? The biggest reason we didn't get into the playoffs this season was because of a horrible starter at QB and the refusal of the head coach to bench him. Alot of you newcomers need to look back to 2006 and 2007. People were calling for Fox's head for this same stuff...overly loyalty to veterans and Foxball. Dan Henning was used as the scapegoat. 2 years later and we're stuck with the same ole philosophy. Did anybody note that as soon as Fox's job status was assured, he resorted back to the same ole Foxball philosophy on offense. Why not go all out like they did against the Vikings and the Giants. Because Fox did JUST enough to get over. He has this franchise wrapped around his finger...

All I know is I'm tired of this Foxball poo...get his ass out of here!

[Delhommey]

We missed the playoffs because of Foxball. We were only in the running in the first place because of Foxball. There within lies the conundrum.

We are not one of the more talented teams in the league.

[carolinanimal]

no matter how much you guys love john fox now for winning these last 3 games, we are still out of the playoffs. John fox in his 8 years or so still hasnt achieved back to back winning seasons! Mike smith of the falcons in his 3rd or 4th year has already done that.

if fox was fired today, and i told you guys the next head coach has 3 winning seasons out of 8, no super bowl rings and has never had back to back winning seasons, you guys would be pissed!!!

Dont get me wrong on this john fox is a good coach for what he is capable of doing. he is the perfect coach to turn around a franchise. his philosophy and gameplan are perfect for a horrible struggling franchise to get back on its feet and start to win games. the problem comes when you get back to a winning level, that philosophy loses its edge. the nfl has evolved and fox hasnt evolved with it.

Which leads to my other point i would like make. i keep hearing people say " if john fox does such and such. i would like to keep him. " i would mind it either.

But the reality is john fox has not given us any evidence he will change his ways. NONE!

He is as stubborn as they come as a head coach. he is also conservative. in the saints game he was stilling running the ball on 3 downs!

to think john fox will change now after 8 years of doing the same thing, is not likely.

[grateflday]

...............Which leads to my other point i would like make. i keep hearing people say " if john fox does such and such. i would like to keep him. " i would mind it either.

But the reality is john fox has not given us any evidence he will change his ways. NONE!

He is as stubborn as they come as a head coach. he is also conservative. in the saints game he was stilling running the ball on 3 downs!

to think john fox will change now after 8 years of doing the same thing, is not likely.

AGREED!!! and Fox show us again yesterday he will never change. We have a 7-8 team OUT of the playoffs, up by 13 points, with a young QB that you are trying to get a feel for and what do you do??? - NOTHING but run it on EVERY single playing in the 3rd and 4th QTRs. I mean come on, let Moore throw the ball around a bit. How are you going to evaluate a QB and how is he going to grow/learn when all he is doing is handing it off on every play and 3rd down!!

[methodtoll]

Is this Peter King's opinion or one of his so called "sources" told him he will be back.