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Tanking as a strategy


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Just now, TheBigKat said:

we were supposed to do that last year after the CMC trade and even failed on that.... Then the Hershel from Gastonia's on here with their F-150s got all riled up on the notion of tanking. So we got our pointless wins, ruined our draft status and are in a perpetual hell cycle

If we are being honest we should have traded cmc Moore to the packers and of course burns to la.  Knowing what we know right now no reasonable fan could argue against this.   

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2 hours ago, Thorrez said:

Other than the Christan Painter led colts, can you please give a couple of example in which tanking really built a consistence winner?

Meanwhile the 49ers looks like the super bowl favorite with Mr. Irrelevant at the helm.

I'll argue, ironic enough, that the colts in 1997 was the last time this philosophy led to a Super bowl ring. 

There are plenty of roads to Rome, and even if we are not on one now shouting does not make the tanking one an obvious can't fail option.

I mean the Eagles tanked their last game a few years ago to “see what a third stringer had” and the players called out the coach for it, the coach got fired, and the Eagles had been consistently good after that. 

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Just now, 45catfan said:

The problem with teams tanking this year is they can't lose worse than us and Chicago is laughing all the way.  Sean Peyton would LOVE some Caleb Williams, but the Bears (thanks to us) has a firm grasp on that #1 pick.

Which means our trade to the Bears is about to get even worse. They either get the top QB in the upcoming class or they flip our pick for even more assets. 

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I definitely hear where you're coming from on this. But the problem with the notion of actually legitimately tanking the last few years is Fitterer can't draft to save his life.

It always goes back to Tepper. He hires the worst people.

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4 minutes ago, Varking said:

Yeah we would still have DJ and this years first rounder. I think we could definitely be using both. 

Losing DJ was the worst part.  The way we've been drafting lately, only losing the other first rounder hurts. Our second rounders play, but don't have much of an impact.

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6 hours ago, NAS said:

Look at the Broncos. 5 games in, they know they have to rebuild. They’re releasing and trading away assets in order to get the highest picks and best new players possible 

Even Vikings are doing the same knowing they need to move on from Cousins and start over.

Only dumb Tepper thinks he can have his cake and eat it too. Never embraced the strategy to go through one terrible season instead of 6 or 7.  Never hit the reset properly, and what do we have to show for it?

So many on this forum pooed on those of us who wanted to lose last year so we could get the best pick possible without trading away our future. Where are you now?

Same as before.  Thanks for your undying support. 🙄

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Yeah I mean you’re going to take L’s when you’re trying to build. 
You can either take them all at once or try to space them all out like we’ve done.

lot of people are having a difficult time right now because their expectations were so unreasonable, I get the feeling it’s the same people who were so anti-tank last season.

this would be a much better ball club had they simply accepted where they were at objectively last season and pulled the band aid.

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3 hours ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Yes, how many who pooed the tankers are also angry with what was given up in the trade to go to #1?

Yeah you have a “show me the baby” contingent here who never want anything to be done, they just want the wins to roll in with the scraps the team has

Its why they were so endeared to Wilks. Beating up on bad teams? Losing meaningful games? An unsustainable philosophy? Doesn’t matter. For that short window-he gave them hope that it could work.

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48 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

we were supposed to do that last year after the CMC trade and even failed on that.... Then the Hershel from Gastonia's on here with their F-150s got all riled up on the notion of tanking. So we got our pointless wins, ruined our draft status and are in a perpetual hell cycle

But but but ..the culture!

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