C.J. Stroud: I don’t think Bryce Young is playing badly in any way, aspect, or form

[GhostWhispah]

13 hours ago, amcoolio said:

CJ is a hell of a leader of men. Bryce will be fine, but man the Texans are set with CJ.

I wouldn't call ANY rookie a leader of men. I wouldn't even call Mahomes nor Belichick that as well. It requires decades of leadership and achievement to earn such a praise. 

 

[Varking]

5 hours ago, Byrdman4real said:

Dude I don't got to prove anything to you or show you anything. You can clearly see it or watch it. Look at both QBs games, look at the pre-snaps, the processing, the audibles, the motions, and the line adjustments. Then come back and tell me Stroud is doing all of them. Because young is most definitely doing it. I been playing and around football my hole life. I know what I'm talking about.

You just basically said you aren’t able to back up your claims. 

[stratocatter]

7 hours ago, NAS said:

I guess Chiefs don’t trust Mahomes either since he doesn’t run the sneak anymore 

Telling that that that is the only thing you chose to take issue with. 

[Byrdman4real]

6 minutes ago, Varking said:

You just basically said you aren’t able to back up your claims. 

No im saying I'm a grown ass man that dont have to prove anything to you

Edited October 27, 2023 by Byrdman4real

[Varking]

1 minute ago, Byrdman4real said:

No im saying I'm a grown ass man that dont have to prove anything to you

You can’t prove it. It’s ok to just admit that and move on. 

[Byrdman4real]

2 minutes ago, Varking said:

You can’t prove it. It’s ok to just admit that and move on. 

I did prove it, you just don't want to do your own homework. Look up Steve smith conversation about Bryce young vs Stroud. Look up Strouds vs Bryce young vs Richardson articles. Look at all the press conferences and the preseason ones. The information is right there for you to read and hear it. And other team mates have said what Young has to learn and process all year now. If you don't like him fine just admit it but don't come on here stating what people is saying is bullshit.

[NAS]

21 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

Telling that that that is the only thing you chose to take issue with. 

It was the only coherent part of your post. 

[Varking]

29 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

I did prove it, you just don't want to do your own homework. Look up Steve smith conversation about Bryce young vs Stroud. Look up Strouds vs Bryce young vs Richardson articles. Look at all the press conferences and the preseason ones. The information is right there for you to read and hear it. And other team mates have said what Young has to learn and process all year now. If you don't like him fine just admit it but don't come on here stating what people is saying is bullshit.

Steve has literally said he doesn’t know what quarterbacks do on his last recent podcast episode. Steve also believes he wouldn’t have succeeded in the NFL as a QB due to his height. And he’s only one inch shorter than Bryce. 
 

I’m not stating what you are saying is bullshit. I’m asking you to prove how you know he’s being asked to do “far more” and to quantify what “far more” even is. Your analysis has returned the result of “other people said so”. I was hoping for a little more than parroting somebody else’s words. Even JTO on the QB School has said he has to assume what the routes are and what the reads are because without being in that QB Room there is no way to know for sure. 
 

You want to quote preseason press conferences and interviews? The same interview that said Bryce was throwing people open in practice and making great throws from multiple arm angles? The same press conferences that said Bryce couldn’t handle what was given to him so now we are more or less dumbing it down? 

 

“I don’t think I could have played QB because of my height”. 
 

“I never played QB and don’t know one thing about what it takes to be a college quarterback”

He said he can watch tape and see from the eye in the sky and go this must have been this route or that route. But here is your source openly admitting his knowledge about QBs is only deep enough to look at a play and assume what an offense is supposed to be doing. It’s not deeper than that. 
 

And then you have real QBs like JTO saying even when watching the plays and film you can know the scheme and the routes but you still don’t for sure know what even the read order is without being in the room. He’s got to make educated guesses. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Varking

[Byrdman4real]

Just now, Varking said:

Steve has literally said he doesn’t know what quarterbacks do on his last recent podcast episode. Steve also believes he wouldn’t have succeeded in the NFL as a QB due to his height. And he’s only one inch shorter than Bryce. 
 

I’m not stating what you are saying is bullshit. I’m asking you to prove how you know he’s being asked to do “far more” and to quantify what “far more” even is. Your analysis has returned the result of “other people said so”. I was hoping for a little more than parroting somebody else’s words. Even JTO on the QB School has said he has to assume what the routes are and what the reads are because without being in that QB Room there is no way to know for sure. 
 

You want to quote preseason press conferences and interviews? The same interview that said Bryce was throwing people open in practice and making great throws from multiple arm angles? The same press conferences that said Bryce couldn’t handle what was given to him so now we are more or less dumbing it down? 

 

“I don’t think I could have played QB because of my height”. 
 

“I never played QB and don’t know one thing about what it takes to be a college quarterback”

He said he can watch tape and see from the eye in the sky and go this must have been this route or that route. But here is your source openly admitting his knowledge about QBs is only deep enough to look at a play and assume what an offense is supposed to be doing. It’s not deeper than that. 

That's not even the video I'm referring too. Go back to his older videos. It's a video when Steve said Stroud WRs only run 4 routes in the WR tree.

And read this article alsohttps://www.si.com/nfl/2023/10/15/frank-reich-panthers-staff-aware-future-tied-bryce-youngs-development-per-report

[Byrdman4real]

4 minutes ago, Varking said:

Steve has literally said he doesn’t know what quarterbacks do on his last recent podcast episode. Steve also believes he wouldn’t have succeeded in the NFL as a QB due to his height. And he’s only one inch shorter than Bryce. 
 

I’m not stating what you are saying is bullshit. I’m asking you to prove how you know he’s being asked to do “far more” and to quantify what “far more” even is. Your analysis has returned the result of “other people said so”. I was hoping for a little more than parroting somebody else’s words. Even JTO on the QB School has said he has to assume what the routes are and what the reads are because without being in that QB Room there is no way to know for sure. 
 

You want to quote preseason press conferences and interviews? The same interview that said Bryce was throwing people open in practice and making great throws from multiple arm angles? The same press conferences that said Bryce couldn’t handle what was given to him so now we are more or less dumbing it down? 

 

“I don’t think I could have played QB because of my height”. 
 

“I never played QB and don’t know one thing about what it takes to be a college quarterback”

He said he can watch tape and see from the eye in the sky and go this must have been this route or that route. But here is your source openly admitting his knowledge about QBs is only deep enough to look at a play and assume what an offense is supposed to be doing. It’s not deeper than that. 

And yes you just proved what I was stating. I'm saying young has to learn more, this is the reason for dumbing down things

[Varking]

1 hour ago, Byrdman4real said:

And yes you just proved what I was stating. I'm saying young has to learn more, this is the reason for dumbing down things

Because one guy needs something dumbed down that doesn’t necessarily mean he had more on his plate to begin with. You would need to have intimate knowledge of both offenses and systems, the play calls and the reads to know who is asked more. This did not prove your point. You pointing to an older video where I shared a newer video with more recent info does not prove your point. 

[WhoKnows]

17 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A win on Sunday would be so fuging nice

We need a few more. I just want to get through the draft knowing we didn’t give up a top 3 pick.

[Waldo]

Pretty embarrassing to have to prop up your QB with his opponents every week, especially when the last one then went on to beat down the other team even after falling asleep for a full quarter while still having time to take their foot of the gas later in the game.

It makes it all look so much more hilarious. Dude is rooting for his friend, good for them but it just makes it look like the Panthers chose the wrong one for even more reasons.

[Varking]

2 hours ago, Byrdman4real said:

 

And read this article alsohttps://www.si.com/nfl/2023/10/15/frank-reich-panthers-staff-aware-future-tied-bryce-youngs-development-per-report

Ignoring the wrong “to/too” in the article this is what it said :

 

It has been BELIEVED that Young was given to much responsibility at the line of scrimmage, leading to him struggling so early in the season.