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Canty low-key just battered Bryce on Greeny


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22 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I'm with you. I'm probably just a little more comfortable at the moment saying that we indeed picked the wrong guy. I hope I'm wrong as two left shoes.

We've got a quarterback that's ideally suited to a West Coast Offense surrounded with ten positions manned by Coryell type players.

That's just not gonna work, and what makes it worse is it's an extremely difficult problem to fix.

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We've got a quarterback that's ideally suited to a West Coast Offense surrounded with ten positions manned by Coryell type players.

That's just not gonna work, and what makes it worse is it's an extremely difficult problem to fix.

If this is true, then why was young the pick?

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4 minutes ago, thennek said:

If this is true, then why was young the pick?

Depends on who you believe...

Word around the league (reported by reliable sources) is that David Tepper influenced the choice when Reich wanted to go in another direction.

It's also possible that Scott Fitterer, who openly professed that he believed in Young before Reich ever got here, pushed things in that direction.

Bottom line though: We got what we got. And regardless of who made the pick, the coaching staff decides what scheme to run, and we're running the wrong one despite insistence that the scheme should be tailored to the players rather than the other way around.

Oy 😖

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

“Good luck honey………”

He is so special that he can just make all that work.

The real question is why would they tear it down for him when he is the easiest player to replace and get better...Because they have to make it work which just shows it's going to get worse. He is doomed here either way. 

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3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He is so special that he can just make all that work.

The real question is why would they tear it down for him when he is the easiest player to replace and get better...Because they have to make it work which just shows it's going to get worse. He is doomed here either way. 

You mean replace one player rather than replace ten?

I get what you're saying, but I don't foresee that being the approach.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Depends on who you believe...

Word around the league (reported by reliable sources) is that David Tepper influenced the choice when Reich wanted to go in another direction.

It's also possible that Scott Fitterer, who openly professed that he believed in Young before Reich ever got here, pushed things in that direction.

Bottom line though: We got what we got. And regardless of who made the pick, the coaching staff decides what scheme to run, and we're running the wrong one despite insistence that the scheme should be tailored to the players rather than the other way around.

Oy 😖

I am one that believes Tepper is a meddling owner so not hard to connect the dots that he had his hands all over this pick. I did not like the trade up…I thought they should stay at 9 and pick the best player as this team has so many holes. 

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1 minute ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Bryce isn't helping but the entire scheme itself is complete dogshit top to bottom. 

The only way to unfug this is to fire everyone and start over. 

Not the only solution...

For one, I pointed out in the other thread that you could retool the scheme to suit the players we have this year leading into next year.

But then of course, there is the option mentioned by others to simply get a quarterback who fits what we're doing rather than one who doesn't.

Nice idea perhaps, but how do you do that given what we already gave up to get this quarterback?

It's like the story of Tantalus.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

You mean replace one player rather than replace ten?

I get what you're saying, but I don't foresee that being the approach.

Ohh they won't do it and that is why they will fail. Fire the dummies and trade Bryce vs trading away any talent left on that side of the ball and continue to get worse talent wise like they have since Fritterer got here. They are going to do a giant retool the wrong way and it's going to be worse than this run. That is what I see coming for next year. 

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Ohh they won't do it and that is why they will fail. Fire the dummies and trade Bryce vs trading away any talent left on that side of the ball and continue to get worse talent wise like they have since Fritterer got here. They are going to do a giant retool the wrong way and it's going to be worse than this run. That is what I see coming for next year. 

Think you can sell David Tepper on that idea? 😕

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