Panthers interview requests

[Panthercougar68]

Just now, Steelo said:

No matter how it shakes out, one half of the GM/VP equation is likely going to be Dan Morgan.  They won't put 2 analytics types in the FO.  One is going to be analytics and one is going to be scouting.  UNLESS they take a liking to a guy like Champ Kelly and pair him with one of the other types.

Im of the opinion that Halaby would be VP and Morgan would be GM if they are going that route.

[Mage]

I want Halaby

[Steelo]

1 minute ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Im of the opinion that Halaby would be VP and Morgan would be GM if they are going that route.

I just said 1/2 of the equation. Either title. 

[Panthercougar68]

1 minute ago, Steelo said:

I just said 1/2 of the equation. Either title. 

I worked today so Im too tired to taste this chicken lol

[razorwolf]

11 minutes ago, Steelo said:

No matter how it shakes out, one half of the GM/VP equation is likely going to be Dan Morgan.  They won't put 2 analytics types in the FO.  One is going to be analytics and one is going to be scouting.  UNLESS they take a liking to a guy like Champ Kelly and pair him with one of the other types.

Alec Halaby may be analytics, but been working with the GM and been carrying some GM duties since 2012, but also been doing a lot of the scouting duties without ever being listed as a scout. Your right about Brandt Tilis always in Front Office but he oversees the scouting departments, right hand man to GM, and one of the smartest guys when it comes to football!! You’d have to listen to the 1 interview that he has ever given that’s been recorded!

[OldhamA]

23 minutes ago, Steelo said:

No matter how it shakes out, one half of the GM/VP equation is likely going to be Dan Morgan.  They won't put 2 analytics types in the FO.  One is going to be analytics and one is going to be scouting.  UNLESS they take a liking to a guy like Champ Kelly and pair him with one of the other types.

Absolute insanity if Dan Morgan is here in February. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, razorwolf said:

Alec Halaby may be analytics, but been working with the GM and been carrying some GM duties since 2012, but also been doing a lot of the scouting duties without ever being listed as a scout. 

To you or anyone interested in Halaby, I'd suggest reading this article from The Athletic:

Paranoia, mismanagement and office politics inside the Eagles

Pertinent excerpts...

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Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.

The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.

...

Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.

Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.

“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”

...

Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.

...

Alec Halaby, the Eagles’ vice president of football operations and strategy, has worked under Roseman since joining the team full time in 2010 and now runs the team’s four-person analytics department. The young executive with an Ivy League pedigree carries with him the kind of reputation that causes football lifers to scoff. And according to multiple sources, a rift grew between Halaby and some members of the coaching staff and scouting department.

“Within the building, he’s perceived as Howie’s guy,” said one source. “That’s a problem. … No coach wants somebody around who they think is undermining the perception of how well they’re doing.”

...

To some, Halaby is something of an interloper. They say he carries influence with Lurie in part because of a close relationship with fellow Harvard grad Julian Lurie, Jeffrey’s son, who stands to one day take over the family business. To others, Halaby is “brilliant” and simply willing to fight for what he believes is right. The more nuanced opinion is that Halaby is in a “no-win situation,” boxed into a specific characterization by the non-traditional football background he shares with Roseman and a personality that makes him a “square peg in a round hole.”

The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.

...

During the 2017 season, Halaby’s and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.

Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s methodology.

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FYI: The author, Sheila Kapadia, was a longtime Eagles beat rider before joining The Athletic

[OldhamA]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To you or anyone interested in Halaby, I'd suggest reading this article from The Athletic:

Paranoia, mismanagement and office politics inside the Eagles

Pertinent excerpts...

______

Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.

The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.

...

Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.

Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.

“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”

...

Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.

...

Alec Halaby, the Eagles’ vice president of football operations and strategy, has worked under Roseman since joining the team full time in 2010 and now runs the team’s four-person analytics department. The young executive with an Ivy League pedigree carries with him the kind of reputation that causes football lifers to scoff. And according to multiple sources, a rift grew between Halaby and some members of the coaching staff and scouting department.

“Within the building, he’s perceived as Howie’s guy,” said one source. “That’s a problem. … No coach wants somebody around who they think is undermining the perception of how well they’re doing.”

...

To some, Halaby is something of an interloper. They say he carries influence with Lurie in part because of a close relationship with fellow Harvard grad Julian Lurie, Jeffrey’s son, who stands to one day take over the family business. To others, Halaby is “brilliant” and simply willing to fight for what he believes is right. The more nuanced opinion is that Halaby is in a “no-win situation,” boxed into a specific characterization by the non-traditional football background he shares with Roseman and a personality that makes him a “square peg in a round hole.”

The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.

...

During the 2017 season, Halaby’s and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.

Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s methodology.

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FYI: The author, Sheila Kapadia, was a longtime Eagles beat rider before joining The Athletic

LOL this is definitely our guy. Tepper will love him.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

LOL this is definitely our guy. Tepper will love him.

Kinda what I'm afraid of...

Lurie is all the worst parts of Tepper and more.

 

Edited January 15, 2024 by Mr. Scot

[OldhamA]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kinda what I'm afraid of...

Lurie is all the worst parts of Tepper and more.

 

Tepper adding another 'smartest guy in the room' to the Front Office. Don't let those jocks tell you how to run your franchise, Dave. Nerds rule the world. 

[Mr. Scot]

Meanwhile the Eagles, who just a few years ago fired the first coach ever to win a Super Bowl for them, are now potentially set to fire the one who coached them to a Super Bowl appearance just last season.

Halaby played a role in the prior dysfunction. Is he also part of the current issues?

Edited January 15, 2024 by Mr. Scot

[razorwolf]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To you or anyone interested in Halaby, I'd suggest reading this article from The Athletic:

Paranoia, mismanagement and office politics inside the Eagles

Pertinent excerpts...

______

Four weeks into the 2019 season, Doug Pederson sat down for his scheduled inquisition.

The Tuesday tribunals with team owner Jeffrey Lurie and general manager Howie Roseman were a weekly occurrence during Pederson’s five-year tenure as Eagles head coach. In the meetings, Lurie and Roseman questioned Pederson about all aspects of his game management the week prior. Fourth-down decision-making, play calling, personnel choices — everything was on the table.

...

Days earlier, the team overcame a 10-0 second-quarter deficit to beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 34-27 and even its record at 2-2. The offensive key to the win was a steady dose of the running game that took advantage of Green Bay’s defensive game plan.

Apparently, that wasn’t good enough. Lurie, who has long advocated the use of analytics, wanted to know why Pederson hadn’t called more passing plays. The interrogation was the same after another win that season — this time in Buffalo on a day with 23 mph winds.

“(Pederson) was ridiculed and criticized for every decision,” one source told The Athletic. “If you won by three, it wasn’t enough. If you lost on a last-second field goal, you’re the worst coach in history.”

...

Sources say Pederson was beaten down by the constant second-guessing. “They treated him like a baby,” one said.

...

Alec Halaby, the Eagles’ vice president of football operations and strategy, has worked under Roseman since joining the team full time in 2010 and now runs the team’s four-person analytics department. The young executive with an Ivy League pedigree carries with him the kind of reputation that causes football lifers to scoff. And according to multiple sources, a rift grew between Halaby and some members of the coaching staff and scouting department.

“Within the building, he’s perceived as Howie’s guy,” said one source. “That’s a problem. … No coach wants somebody around who they think is undermining the perception of how well they’re doing.”

...

To some, Halaby is something of an interloper. They say he carries influence with Lurie in part because of a close relationship with fellow Harvard grad Julian Lurie, Jeffrey’s son, who stands to one day take over the family business. To others, Halaby is “brilliant” and simply willing to fight for what he believes is right. The more nuanced opinion is that Halaby is in a “no-win situation,” boxed into a specific characterization by the non-traditional football background he shares with Roseman and a personality that makes him a “square peg in a round hole.”

The blurriness of Halaby’s influence on the final decision-makers created rifts throughout the organization and contributed to the iciness between departments. One source described the analytics team as a “clandestine, Black Ops department that doesn’t answer to anybody except the owner,” even though Halaby officially reports to Roseman.

...

During the 2017 season, Halaby’s and Pederson’s relationship soured to the point where Pederson berated Halaby within earshot of the rest of the office, according to sources. In the opinion of some members of the coaching staff, Halaby was not to be trusted.

Frustration mounted on the scouting side as well. Rather than being presented with reasons for where certain draft-eligible players were rated by Halaby’s department, the scouting staff would simply be given a list of players the analytics department liked. According to one source, a top personnel official was upset to find out Halaby was grading players on his own despite never having been trained in the scouting department’s methodology.

______

FYI: The author, Sheila Kapadia, was a longtime Eagles beat rider before joining The Athletic

Only thing this article was written 4-6 years ago! Just my opinion most people grow in that amount of time when you take like a 33 executive that is 38 now, but will be 39 by the time season starts. Usually a person grows personally and professionally over that length of time. So if you could come up with a more updated article it would give you more credit about the person Halaby is now!

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, razorwolf said:

Only thing this article was written 4-6 years ago! Just my opinion most people grow in that amount of time when you take like a 33 executive that is 38 now, but will be 39 by the time season starts. Usually a person grows personally and professionally over that length of time. So if you could come up with a more updated article it would give you more credit about the person Halaby is now!

See above...

Throw in that we just fired a head coach in part because of internal politics and toxic behavior.

In the wake of that, so we really wanna risk bringing in a guy who's been part of a similar issue in the past...and could conceivably be part of a current one?

[Anybodyhome]

The only requirement for the next GM:

How well can you put lipstick on a pig? Because as long as your wagon is hitched to a bad QB, your skill at team building will never be appreciated.