"I’ve never thought that they didn’t think highly of me," said Moore.

[Zod]

They didn't, or more accurately, John Fox didn't.

Sorry Matt. You are a bit laid back for Fox's taste. Fox likes his QB's fiery and all pumped up in practice, yelling and pointing and slapping the asses of the other players. Sure they may throw 7 picks in an actual game, but damn if they are not fiery. THEY are football players.

Sorry Matt. You and your laid back in practice, not yelling or slapping asses, "all I do is win games" attitude wont make you any friends on Fox's staff. Thank god Hurney knows Richardson would fire his ass on the spot if another team picked you up and you won elsewhere.

Hopefully you can ride out this season until the Panthers hire a head coach that actually believes in you.

[Panthro]

That's also the reason why people on here wanted Jake QBing.

Where are they now???? Funny how some people disappear once their "guy" gets benched.

[Hairless Cat]

Is this about Chris Weinke?

[Gman was right]

Its noy that he was laid back its that he was too lazy in practice because he wasn't throwing a hissy fit every time he threw a pick. We have members on this forum with "inside sources" that told me so. Hopefully moore will get his poo together and stop slacking off so much

[MadHatter]

A complete thread that qualifies for the FAIL classification.

[Wither]

So, everyone knows exactly how Fox operates and feels. I'm glad I'm the only one who hasn't spent any amount of time with him.

[rayzor]

organizationally it's pretty apparent that moore is thought highly of.

fox is the big question. most of us know how fox has been viewing moore and the reasoning for it. can fox put aside his feelings about what a "football player" looks like and acts like and can moore pick it up enough to meet fox half way?

i'm thinking moore will do his part to act the part without giving up too much of himself.

i'm only counting on fox being coerced into making moore the starter.

[Wither]

organizationally it's pretty apparent that moore is thought highly of.

fox is the big question. most of us know how fox has been viewing moore and the reasoning for it. can fox put aside his feelings about what a "football player" looks like and acts like and can moore pick it up enough to meet fox half way?

i'm thinking moore will do his part to act the part without giving up too much of himself.

i'm only counting on fox being coerced into making moore the starter.

I don't think Fox is that retarded. Sure, he's made mistakes and he will still make mistakes, but it's not that easy to become an NFL coach; not every idiot can make it.

[Darth Biscuit]

Isn't there already a whole thread on this?

[Woodcookedbbq]

Hopefully Fox can read b/w the lines and see this high tender and know that the FO and fans are expecting Moore to start.

[rayzor]

you can be successful and narrow minded. fox was successful enough to land an NFL HC job and keep it for 8 years but that doesn't change his being narrow minded.

he doesn't think that moore is a prototypical NFL player or QB. moore doesn't act like he things a real QB should and that is why he has been so down on moore.

[rayzor]

Isn't there already a whole thread on this?

about fox's feelings on moore? yep and it was started by the same guy. care to bump it up?

[monstercat]

I wish I could read Fox's mind like some can. You sure as hell aren't coming up with these opinions based on what the man says, because he never says what he's really thinking.

[panthers55]

They didn't, or more accurately, John Fox didn't.

Sorry Matt. You are a bit laid back for Fox's taste. Fox likes his QB's fiery and all pumped up in practice, yelling and pointing and slapping the asses of the other players. Sure they may throw 7 picks in an actual game, but damn if they are not fiery. THEY are football players.

Sorry Matt. You and your laid back in practice, not yelling or slapping asses, "all I do is win games" attitude wont make you any friends on Fox's staff. Thank god Hurney knows Richardson would fire his ass on the spot if another team picked you up and you won elsewhere.

Hopefully you can ride out this season until the Panthers hire a head coach that actually believes in you.

Yeah. Why would a coach want his player to actually learn the play book. It is ridiculous that Fox would want his leader in the locker room to stick around after weighlighting and off-season conditioning rather than bolt out the door early. Fox is crazy to expect his quarterback to watch film and actually help with gameplanning for the opponent. This whole lead by example BS is way overrated, right?

Bottom line is Moore gave very little reason to believe he could run the team successfully outside of a short stint in 2007. Then he immediately regresses in 2008 and had a poor preseason in 2009. I am sure it is Fox's fault that Moore was reported by several folks in the know to be so laid back that he didn't put in the work every day.

After Moore shows he can win some games and play, they tender him with a 1st and third assuring he would be here. They also raise his salary from 400,000 to over 3,000,000 with the move. Yeah it really shows the organization doesn't value him or think he can do the job. Maybe if he actually works hard this year and shows up like a leader in the locker room, they might reward him again with a long term contract.

Yeah it is all Fox's fault, and Moore's attitude and behavior had nothing to do with it.