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In a deep qb class should the panther take one day 3?

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1 minute ago, Ricky Prickles said:

You mean next years class doesnt have the talent that would be worth it in other words?

Worth it, you mean taking a shot at a QB in the first round?   Unless we want to take a stab a mediocre veteran in FA, then our hands are tied, so we kinda HAVE to.  The very point I'm trying to prove.  We never learn our lesson until we are out of options, good ones anyway.

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Worth it, you mean taking a shot at a QB in the first round?   Unless we want to take a stab a mediocre veteran in FA, then our hands are tied, so we kinda HAVE to.  The very point I'm trying to prove.  We never learn our lesson until we are out of options, good ones anyway.

I dont know what else to do if Bryce does not pan out next year either. I do like a few guys ideas of drafting a QB late every year in the 7th since 7th round odds are not great anyhow and you could find a hidden gem on a rare occasion. It doesnt overly excite me to go after a mediocre vet thinking we can fix everything either. We are definitely in a bad position if Bryce does not work out next season. Bad talent evaluations, bad trades for years and just plain bad decisions has really started to dig us deep down to the point that we have a heck of a long way to go to climb out of this hole.

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16 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Problem being Penix and Nix would be vying for QB1 in next year's class.  Ewers would be QB3.  See the tragic irony there?

Nah. Penix and Nix were already 5th year seniors this year. That was their extra covid year. They had to chance the draft if they wanted to keep playing football.

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Nah. Penix and Nix were already 5th year seniors this year. That was their extra covid year. They had to chance the draft if they wanted to keep playing football.

I wasn't talking about their college eligiblity, but projecting their stock versus to whom is likely to be QB1 in 2025 in Ewers.  Put like this, if Ewers was in this draft, he'd be QB6 or QB7.  Why do you think he went back to Texas?  Did he want to skim NIL money from Arch Manning or some petty thing?  Texas will likely make the playoffs, but will not win the Natty. So chasing a ring isn't the realistic reason either.

Dude knew he'd be a top pick in 2025 and be no higher than a third rounder this year.  It was a no-brainer for Ewers.

 

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2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I wasn't talking about their college eligiblity, but projecting their stock versus to whom is likely to be QB1 in 2025 in Ewers.  Put like this, if Ewers was in this draft, he'd be QB6 or QB7.  Why do you think he went back to Texas?  Did he want to skim NIL money from Arch Manning or some petty thing?  Texas will likely make the playoffs, but will not win the Natty. So chasing a ring isn't the realistic reason either.

Dude knew he'd be a top pick in 2025 and be no higher than a third rounder this year.  It was a no-brainer for Ewers.

 

I dont know much about ewers, but I do know he has a bazooka for an arm.

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I wasn't talking about their college eligiblity, but projecting their stock versus to whom is likely to be QB1 in 2025 in Ewers.  Put like this, if Ewers was in this draft, he'd be QB6 or QB7.  Why do you think he went back to Texas?  Did he want to skim NIL money from Arch Manning or some petty thing?  Texas will likely make the playoffs, but will not win the Natty. So chasing a ring isn't the realistic reason either.

Dude knew he'd be a top pick in 2025 and be no higher than a third rounder this year.  It was a no-brainer for Ewers.

 

If thats true put me down for a no vote on Ewers next season unless he absolutely lights the world on fire and develops into someone who would have went first overall this year for next season.

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4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I wasn't talking about their college eligiblity, but projecting their stock versus to whom is likely to be QB1 in 2025 in Ewers.  Put like this, if Ewers was in this draft, he'd be QB6 or QB7.  Why do you think he went back to Texas?  Did he want to skim NIL money from Arch Manning or some petty thing?  Texas will likely make the playoffs, but will not win the Natty. So chasing a ring isn't the realistic reason either.

Dude knew he'd be a top pick in 2025 and be no higher than a third rounder this year.  It was a no-brainer for Ewers.

 

People can project all they want, but it's way too early to say who will be the top QB in next year's draft. NIL and the transfer portal has really screwed a lot of the college landscape up. Getting a few million to play the lighter college schedule has to be a lot more tempting than getting paid the same to play in the NFL unless you're a top ten pick.

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Just now, Ricky Prickles said:

I miss a QB with a cannon for an arm. I dont mean to poo on Bryce but every time he throws I just dont see the lightning pop behind it that makes me think he can make any and all the throws especially the deep ones.

From the little I have seen from qe he has a massive massive arm.  I think the knock on him is his inaccuracy but he is really athletic as well.  I will devote more time this season to watch texas as he is intriguing

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4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

From the little I have seen from qe he has a massive massive arm.  I think the knock on him is his inaccuracy but he is really athletic as well.  I will devote more time this season to watch texas as he is intriguing

I guess im going to as well. You all have me curious as to who this guy is now. Big arm and athletic is always nice! I take it he has some size on him as well?

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I guess im going to as well. You all have me curious as to who this guy is now. Big arm and athletic is always nice! I take it he has some size on him as well?

I believe dane brugler said that ewers has the best arm of any qb that he has scouted.  Said the ball makes a whistling sound coming out of his hand.  He can throw from any angle and it zips out due to natural mechanics.  But yeah he needs to work on accuracy

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I believe dane brugler said that ewers has the best arm of any qb that he has scouted.  Said the ball makes a whistling sound coming out of his hand.  He can throw from any angle and it zips out due to natural mechanics.  But yeah he needs to work on accuracy

Its a start. Having a strong arm and athletic is definitely at least a start. I just looked him up and he is listed as 6'2 194 but only 20 years old so still has a bit more time to grow and put on some mass.

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1 minute ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Its a start. Having a strong arm and athletic is definitely at least a start. I just looked him up and he is listed as 6'2 194 but only 20 years old so still has a bit more time to grow and put on some mass.

He was one of those that could skip his senior year in hs and did to enroll in osu early.   I mean he is keeping manning on the bench so he must be doing something right and believe it when I say I got sick of hearing how awesome manning was in high school

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