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How about Steve Wilkes?


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1 minute ago, Manna said:

Didn’t Shanahan call a timeout to “overrule” Wilks on one play? At least that’s what I thought I heard Nantz say. But yeah, that last drive in OT was vintage Wilks and why I didn’t want him as HC. Great guy, aggressive scheme, but he doesn’t show up when the game is on the line. Kind of like, Ron. 

Yes, he did. Romo explained why.

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2 minutes ago, Manna said:

Didn’t Shanahan call a timeout to “overrule” Wilks on one play? At least that’s what I thought I heard Nantz say. But yeah, that last drive in OT was vintage Wilks and why I didn’t want him as HC. Great guy, aggressive scheme, but he doesn’t show up when the game is on the line. Kind of like, Ron. 

YES.

 

He was running 5 deep and then full blitz underneath.  Mahomes had torched it multiple plays in a row and Wilks called it again.   Shannahan had enough and they changed to Some type of man w/2 deep safeties after timeoout.

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The mistake is only blaming one and not both.

Wilks did what he frequently does; got conservative in the latter part of the game and allowed the other team back in.

Shanahan called a poor game putting it on the back of Purdy rather than McCaffrey.

Hell, even special teams had miscues.

Nobody comes out of this looking like a hero.

If you knew before the game that the Niners D held the Chiefs to 19 points over four quarters and forced two turnovers the Niners would've been overwhelming favorites to win the SB. the D played good enough to win. The offense didn't.

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2 hours ago, WarHeel said:

It was the equivalent to a team giving up a lead via multiple penalties and defensive collapse and then blaming the kicker for not nailing a 60 yarder to win the game by less than a score.

Wilks is a strong leader, but he's not a chessmaster. When he goes against chessmaster type offensive coaches he tends to lose. Evero is honestly better equipped to face that sort of coach than Wilks was.

(I'm not exactly sure Kyle Shanahan is a chessmaster either but that's a different discussion)

As a head coach, you have to hire guys that complement your weaknesses. Wilks was going to have Brian Johnson and Al Holcomb as his coordinators. Not great choices.

Folks saying that Wilks would have essentially been around Rivera level head coach are likely right.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you knew before the game that the Niners D held the Chiefs to 19 points over four quarters and forced two turnovers the Niners would've been overwhelming favorites to win the SB. the D played good enough to win. The offense didn't.

It's not just the total number of points.

The timing of when they decided to allow those points makes a difference.

Wilks defense was way more salad in the first half than they were in the second and in overtime. And yeah, that's typical Wilks.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's not just the total number of points.

The timing of when they decided to allow those points makes a difference.

Wilks defense was way more salad in the first half than they were in the second and in overtime. And yeah, that's typical Wilks.

And getting cute with a lead in the SB and abandoning the run is typical Shanahan. That's where they lost the game.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you knew before the game that the Niners D held the Chiefs to 19 points over four quarters and forced two turnovers the Niners would've been overwhelming favorites to win the SB. the D played good enough to win. The offense didn't.

i think with the right playcalling on offense, the 49ers would have won.

2 things happened, 1) 49ers deviated from what they were doing well and stopped running the ball. chiefs have one of the best secondary's in the league and then when you throw Chris Jones in the mix, that passing game is going to have some problems. which leads to 2) 49ers had a  little passing game that was working...until chris jones got it figured out and when he did they couldn't do anything about it. 

best thing 49ers could have done was just keep running. of course if they had, CMC would likely have not been able to finish the game. i'm surprised he did. but the best thing they had in their arsenal was rushing the ball because the chiefs were just too good to pass consistently on all game. 

muffing the punt (do we call that one a muff?) and getting that XP blocked were killers for sure, but shanny should have called a better game.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And getting cute with a lead in the SB and abandoning the run is typical Shanahan. That's where they lost the game.

Shanahan is a regular season king but a Super Bowl serf.

Mind you, Andy Reid used to fade in the playoffs too, so maybe he'll learn.

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28 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i think with the right playcalling on offense, the 49ers would have won.

2 things happened, 1) 49ers deviated from what they were doing well and stopped running the ball. chiefs have one of the best secondary's in the league and then when you throw Chris Jones in the mix, that passing game is going to have some problems. which leads to 2) 49ers had a  little passing game that was working...until chris jones got it figured out and when he did they couldn't do anything about it. 

best thing 49ers could have done was just keep running. of course if they had, CMC would likely have not been able to finish the game. i'm surprised he did. but the best thing they had in their arsenal was rushing the ball because the chiefs were just too good to pass consistently on all game. 

muffing the punt (do we call that one a muff?) and getting that XP blocked were killers for sure, but shanny should have called a better game.

An underrated mistake was taking the ball first on OT. With the new playoff OT rules you need to defer. It's like in college. Deferring let's you know what you're dealing with. If they score a TD you know you have to answer with a TD. If they kick a FG you know a TD wins it. If they fail to score you know any score wins it for you. Not only that, but a defensive score wins the game. If you put your offense on the field you can't win the game on that possession but you can lose it. You have to defer in that OT format.

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Defense looked horrible the last 3 chiefs drives .  But with that said the cmc fumble and the muffed punt killed them.  Not so sure the missed extra point mattered bc chiefs would have just scored a td instead of a fg before ot with the way 9ers d was playing

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29 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

Defense looked horrible the last 3 chiefs drives .  But with that said the cmc fumble and the muffed punt killed them.  Not so sure the missed extra point mattered bc chiefs would have just scored a td instead of a fg before ot with the way 9ers d was playing

The missed blocking assignment on the third and 4 was critical as well

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

An underrated mistake was taking the ball first on OT. With the new playoff OT rules you need to defer. It's like in college. Deferring let's you know what you're dealing with. If they score a TD you know you have to answer with a TD. If they kick a FG you know a TD wins it. If they fail to score you know any score wins it for you. Not only that, but a defensive score wins the game. If you put your offense on the field you can't win the game on that possession but you can lose it. You have to defer in that OT format.

I was thinking the same thing. I would never want the ball first in that OT format. I would always want the ball second to know what im up against and to be able to plan ahead from there what I will do. That decision left me scratching my head wondering why......

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17 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

The missed blocking assignment on the third and 4 was critical as well

It wasn't a missed assignment as much as it was Jones not taking the bait. That CMC motion was about drawing the DL. They'd been doing it all night. They had a lot of success with it on their first drive where they were rolling until CMC fumbled. But the Chiefs adapted to it and stopped flowing with the OL. They realized it was misdirection. 

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