Early NFL offseason chatter

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

 

@Mr. Scot I told you. This was the only job that really made sense.

I do think the Jags made sense if he didn't want to do in direct competition with Campbell. The Raiders also if he wanted to basically pick his own GM and run the whole show.

Chicago was always an option though. How good of one depends on your opinion of Williams.

Not terribly surprised by him choosing Chicago. Kinda surprised by them making the hire without even doing a second interview.

Guess they just wanted him that bad.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I do think the Jags made sense if he didn't want to do in direct competition with Campbell. The Raiders also if he wanted to basically pick his own GM and run the whole show.

Chicago was always an option though. How good of one depends on your opinion of Williams.

Not terribly surprised by him choosing Chicago. Kinda surprised by them making the hire without even doing a second interview.

Guess they just wanted him that bad.

Was Marty Hurney there shoveling home cooked meatballs down his gullet?

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Only two options that make the bears job look good.  He still would have been better off taking the Washington job last year.

There was something about an issue between him and Adam Peters that nixed that job. I forget the specifics but it might actually be earlier in this thread.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Was Marty Hurney there shoveling home cooked meatballs down his gullet?

Hurney's still in Washington along with Scott Fitterer, oddly enough.

Neither has the executive level power they used to have, of course.

[frankw]

He's going to have his hands more than full in Chicago.

In the last 25 years alone Lovie Smith is the only one to last 5 years or more on the job as head coach for the Bears.

Odds are not in his favor.

Edited January 20, 2025 by frankw

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I do think the Jags made sense if he didn't want to do in direct competition with Campbell. The Raiders also if he wanted to basically pick his own GM and run the whole show.

Chicago was always an option though. How good of one depends on your opinion of Williams.

Not terribly surprised by him choosing Chicago. Kinda surprised by them making the hire without even doing a second interview.

Guess they just wanted him that bad.

The Raiders always seemed like a insane long shot. I mean....what was the draw?

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

He's going to have his hands more than full in Chicago.

In the last 25 years alone Lovie Smith is the only one to last 5 years or more on the job as head coach for the Bears.

Odds are not in his favor.

But it is the best situation.

[frankw]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

But it is the best situation.

Compared to the Raiders it's certainly debatable but I'd give the edge to Chicago. Still. Between the two jobs it's basically comparing turds.

I'll be eager to see how seamlessly he transitions into being the guy as opposed to one of the moving parts.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Compared to the Raiders it's certainly debatable but I'd give the edge to Chicago. Still. Between the two jobs it's basically comparing turds.

I'll be eager to see how seamlessly he transitions into being the guy as opposed to one of the moving parts.

If he is making 15 million per year it's a no brainer

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Compared to the Raiders it's certainly debatable but I'd give the edge to Chicago. Still. Between the two jobs it's basically comparing turds.

I'll be eager to see how seamlessly he transitions into being the guy as opposed to one of the moving parts.

It isn't debatable. The Bears have a substantially better roster, they have a potentially franchise QB on a rookie deal and a not idiot owner. Those are all advantages over Vegas. Literally the only "media" advantage was Brady as part owner but being a great player may have nothing to do with that. See Jordan, Michael.

[Mr. Scot]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The Raiders always seemed like a insane long shot. I mean....what was the draw?

From what I've read, Brady was a big part of it. Other selling points were that they were prepared to give him who he wanted as a GM (Jags might have been willing to do that but it wasn't certain) plus he could have started with his own guy rather than a QB picked by someone else and of course word was the Raiders were prepared to offer an insane amount of cash. 

I can't blame him for not wanting to work with Mark Davis, of course. Though to be fair, have the Bears of the last few years been n much better?

There's an article on ESPN about the McCaskeys that says they've been pretty heavily influenced by former Bear and current agent Trace Armstrong in several of their past decisions. I haven't had time to read it yet, but it does sound interesting.

Edited January 20, 2025 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It isn't debatable. The Bears have a substantially better roster, they have a potentially franchise QB on a rookie deal and a not idiot owner. 

Potential franchise QB is also potential massive bust.

I'd add some Bear fans might argue you the "idiot owner" part.

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, frankw said:

He's going to have his hands more than full in Chicago.

In the last 25 years alone Lovie Smith is the only one to last 5 years or more on the job as head coach for the Bears.

Odds are not in his favor.

Even through different GMs and coaches, Chicago's history at the quarterback position would have to be upgraded massively to qualify as being called "woeful".

I know they have high hopes for Williams, but I'm not sold on him being the answer yet.

(they had high hopes for Fields too, and they could have had Daniels)

[outlaw4]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

 

@Mr. Scot I told you. This was the only job that really made sense.

 

This has got to be a massive kick in the you-know-what for Lions fans. I doubt he'll get a welcome reception when he's back inside their stadium next season.