Risers and Fallers per Gantt, 8-18-10

[top dawg]

This is interesting, for those who don't know what's going on at camp.

In my opinion, from what I have gathered from Gantt and others, Greg Hardy is the most pleasant surprise coming out of camp this year. The King (aka Jeff King) continues to impress. Link

[SorthNarolina]

I'm not forming my opinions just yet. Hardy is getting some serious hype behind him. His fame from 2 years ago is still there. He needs some serious time with the starters.

If he produces in the regular season, look out. ESPN hype machine garbage 24/7. If somehow Clausen is starting at the same time, you won't be able to watch without getting diarrhea.

[Lumps]

hardy is a beast and is practically free.

[Baschski]

Eh, not sure Leonard and Williams "fell." They were hurt. Injuries hold people back. Leonard has shown the ability to be a force at DT and we already know from his time in Chicago that Williams is legit.

[Snake]

I dont see how Moore is falling after a good showing as the #1 WR in the first Preseason game. I guess Sat will show us what we need to know.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

[...] we already know from his time in Chicago that Williams is legit.

To be fair, I remember us thinking the same of Landon Johnson, who was Cincinnatti's leading tackler.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I love all the comments saying Hunter Cantwell should be on the list, when he had a pretty decent camp.

[MHS831]

I agree that Leonard and Williams did not fall. We just wanted to hear from them and didn't--both are new. The next games will tell us whether Jarrett sticks or not. Same for Moore. I think one of the two will make the team.

The Jarrett comments last week about his maturity seem to me to have been nothing more that his agent advising him to try to drum up some positive energy before cuts. Again, the Jets game will tell us a lot about the new and improved Jarrett.

Is it possible that Moore and Jarrett are cut? I don't think so, but I think only 1 makes the team. I see us possibly going Smith, LaFell, Wright, Edwards, Jarrett, and Gettis. The only alternative to this might be placing Edwards, who is not ready to play, on IR along with Pike. I think they will if he looks bad vs, NY and TEnn.

[jayflip]

To be fair, I remember us thinking the same of Landon Johnson, who was Cincinnatti's leading tackler.

I was just about to say the same thing. Maybe the responsibilities our LBers are expected to handle are pretty tough compared to other teams. Maybe a linebacker for the panthers has to be smarter than the average bear.

[SorthNarolina]

Wasn't Johnson a highly productive 3-4 ILB?

The thinking at least from a fan's perspective was that he was getting a ton of tackles because he was all over the field, and he would play better in a 4-3 because he was miscast.

Turned out he was just productive and he did very poorly in a 4-3.

Williams was a back-up that played well in a defense very similar to ours.

So the thinking here is that he's a diamond in the rough, a guy who didn't play because of the talented ahead of him.

Williams is way more likely to succeed than Johnson. Similar system and he's not a big FA signing which we don't do well at. He was a trade which we do well at.

Now the trade was a little iffy as we were just fishing for whatever we could get. They didn't want to totally screw Harris so it worked out for everybody. They were going to cut him either way.

[pantherfan49]

I dont see how Moore is falling after a good showing as the #1 WR in the first Preseason game. I guess Sat will show us what we need to know.

He probably isn't, but Gnat gets a shot in at a player in front of his idol AE.

[TarPanther9180]

Wasn't Johnson a highly productive 3-4 ILB?

The thinking at least from a fan's perspective was that he was getting a ton of tackles because he was all over the field, and he would play better in a 4-3 because he was miscast.

Turned out he was just productive and he did very poorly in a 4-3.

Williams was a back-up that played well in a defense very similar to ours.

So the thinking here is that he's a diamond in the rough, a guy who didn't play because of the talented ahead of him.

Williams is way more likely to succeed than Johnson. Similar system and he's not a big FA signing which we don't do well at. He was a trade which we do well at.

Now the trade was a little iffy as we were just fishing for whatever we could get. They didn't want to totally screw Harris so it worked out for everybody. They were going to cut him either way.

I'm pretty sure Cincy was a 4-3 defense when Johnson played there.

Back then, being the leading tackler on that team was like being the smart kid in the retarded class.

[jarhead]

When is Jamar Williams expected to return from his shoulder injury?

.My hope he was going to be our weak side solution when we lost Davis.Beason needs to be back in the middle

[Snake]

When is Jamar Williams expected to return from his shoulder injury?

.My hope he was going to be our weak side solution when we lost Davis.Beason needs to be back in the middle

Doubtful. The only person that would replace Beason would be Davis and thats a long shot. The Will pos in the tampa 2 is the most important. Besides Connor is a better Mike then Williams is a Will.