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Carson Palmer: Jimmy better off playing right away

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Davidson Deac II Grand Master

Davidson Deac II

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Ether a QB is good or he is not. It really dose not matter when you start him. Look at Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and The Mannings. Then look at matt leinart, kevin kolb, and kyle boller. So he will do good or he want.....

No way to know that for certain. Very few quarterbacks start out looking really good. Guys like Ryan and Dan Marino are relatively rare. Most end up taking hard knocks for a few years before they start playing well. Who knows how it might have affected Drew Brees psyche if he had come in and threw a lot of interceptions his first year.

Btw, I know its early but Flacco has looked worse this year than Matt Moore. More interceptions, fewer yards, fewer td's and fewer points. Fortunately, the Ravens have a great defense.

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Ether a QB is good or he is not. It really dose not matter when you start him. Look at Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and The Mannings. Then look at matt leinart, kevin kolb, and kyle boller. So he will do good or he want.....

Not true at all.

Some QB's need time to adjust to the speed of the NFL. Some need to be protected from their O-line. Some need time to learn the play book.

Take for example Jake Locker (coming out this year). I'd NEVER start him in his first year. He's simply not ready for the speed, complexity and intensity of the NFL. He'd be damaged by the experience. I wouldn't have played Bradford this year either for that matter.

Somebody like Clausen, Ryan and Manning however have played in pro style offences in college and have succeeded in adverse situations. Their personalities mean that they'll learn more by starting than by holding a clip board.

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I think a QB struggles when he is not the last piece to the puzzle. In other words, if you put him in before the OL, Running game, and WR corps is in tact, he will struggle. David Carr is the epitome of this theory, but less obvious examples are Akili Smith, Tim COuch, Joey Harrington, etc. Desperate franchises see the QB as the cure-all, so they draft a kid early and start him right away.

This is not suggesting that a rookie cannot start and be successful, but the pieces better be in place before he does or he will screw up. Having said that, the Panthers might not be a bad place for Clausen. 2 of the 3 components are in place, or will be when Otah returns. Then the WR problem may not be as bad as it seems because Gettis, Lafell, etc will mature and gain NFL experience somewhat quickly. Until then, rely on Smith, the TEs, Goodson for the passing efficiency.

Don't know why Davidson seems to miss this.

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Not true at all.

Some QB's need time to adjust to the speed of the NFL. Some need to be protected from their O-line. Some need time to learn the play book.

Take for example Jake Locker (coming out this year). I'd NEVER start him in his first year. He's simply not ready for the speed, complexity and intensity of the NFL. He'd be damaged by the experience. I wouldn't have played Bradford this year either for that matter.

Somebody like Clausen, Ryan and Manning however have played in pro style offences in college and have succeeded in adverse situations. Their personalities mean that they'll learn more by starting than by holding a clip board.

agreed. holding the clipboard is beneficial for players that have to start over from scratch learning a brand new system. if they already have the fundamentals down or are just plain good at grasping things quickly, learning in the game is much more beneficial.

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