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WR shortage takes toll in Carolina


scpanther22

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Armanti would make a good slot WR.IMO

One of Clayton’s constant themes throughout the offseason was that Carolina needed to use more three-receiver sets and, more specifically, needed to frequently employ a slot receiver. I thought the Panthers were listening to Clayton when they went out and drafted receivers Brandon LaFell, Armanti Edwards and David Gettis. When there was talk of a closed “passing camp’’ during the offseason, I thought Carolina was really buying into this concept.

But it turns out the Panthers weren’t really listening and that might be part of the reason they’re 0-5. According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Panthers have used three-receiver sets less than any team in the league -- by far. The Panthers have used three receivers on 91 plays this year. Every other team is well over 100 and the Colts lead the league in this category as they’ve used three receivers on 270 plays

http://www.espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post?id=14457

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first and foremost the panthers run fewer offensive plays than most teams, so any set will have less than most teams by default. also clayton and espn don't know much of anything.

with that said i wouldn't mind seeing 3/4 or 5 wr sets. at this point i'd be happy with anything that looks different, because the same clearly isn't working

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Wasn't Armanti in the slot when a low but catchable ball bounced off his hands and became an interception? I would be careful putting him in the slot or at any WR position at this point.

I cringe every time I respond to an Edwards thread (hell I cringe everytime I see one now) but how many times have our QB's put the ball on the ground or thrown an interception this season? I'm not sure "perfect" is an achievable goal for anyone at this point. Especially someone who is learning the position and who can count then number of reps he's had so far on one hand.

For what it's worth and I'm sure it won't be worth much around here it looked to me like it bounced off his thigh pad. Seems like I saw Moss miss one like that the other day.

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Armanti isn't the first receiver to take his eyes of the ball and miss a pass coming across the middle, not to mention the fact that it was a poorly placed pass. It was a mistake, it happens, maybe he makes the catch if it was a better throw, maybe not, but he's a young receiver. How many of Lafell's stone hand deflections could have ended up the same way?

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Why is that surprising? We have completed only 47% of our passes no matter what the receiver formation so that is par for the course. We also run 3 receiver sets on third down primarily and we are converting under 40% of them mostly with incomplete passes.

who said is was surprising?

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