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If you didn't realize today that our biggest need is for a stud DT...


Darth Urious

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he has a worse TD/INT ration than Jake did when he imploded for what it's worth. He also has 8 fumbles on the year.....he hasn't lost them all but those are all asking for it.

we all agree a DT is needed. But there isn't a Suh in the draft and we will have the number 1 pick. Can use the 2nd round pick on DT and the 1st on Luck. That should make everyone happy.

Trade down... we don't have a second rounder right now...

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Trade down... we don't have a second rounder right now...

Thank you, I accept your apology..

Doesn't change the fact there isn't a dominant DT on paper in the upcoming draft. If you have the #1 pick and don't have a franchise QB you have to take Luck.

We will have a 2nd round pick. We don't have one now but we will. Williams, Smith....somehow a 2nd rounder will likely come to Carolina.

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Doesn't change the fact there isn't a dominant DT on paper in the upcoming draft. If you have the #1 pick and don't have a franchise QB you have to take Luck.

We will have a 2nd round pick. We don't have one now but we will. Williams, Smith....somehow a 2nd rounder will likely come to Carolina.

Williams is a FA

Smith won't be traded

If we get a 2nd, the most likely scenario involves sliding down a little in the first... especially if there is a rookie pay scale in place...

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I am not a Luck fan... but his rating by pretty much every professional football ranking service is so far above everyone else that I think we almost have to pick him tbh. Of course we have other needs but depending on the new cba, we should be sitting pretty(cap wise) and at least have a chance to address those needs through free agency. There are no really #1 worthy DT picks that I have seen. We don't have a second round pick, and trading down doesn't necessarily guarantee we get the pick we want any way. Just more picks.

The argument that we don't want to go through rookie QB growing pains can be applied to trading down for more picks and going through rookie growing pains with other positions while still not addressing the obvious history of poor QB play. Brees, Ryan, and Freeman aren't going anywhere. We need to fix the huge gap in QB play and maybe the rest falls into place.

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Williams is a FA

Smith won't be traded

If we get a 2nd, the most likely scenario involves sliding down a little in the first... especially if there is a rookie pay scale in place...

Carolina won't let Pep and Williams both walk for nothing.

Don't be so sure about Smitty. We haven't really started rebuilding yet....the lameduck Fox actually prevented us from legimately doing that. Depends what Smith wants........odds are probably pretty high we see a Tony G type scenario w/ Smitty. He will always be a Panther but his age, rebuilding, and what he wants to do in the NFL and time left to do it.....both parties could easily agree on him departing.

Rookie pay scale just makes the Luck pick make even more sense.

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he has a worse TD/INT ration than Jake did when he imploded for what it's worth. He also has 8 fumbles on the year.....he hasn't lost them all but those are all asking for it.

we all agree a DT is needed. But there isn't a Suh in the draft and we will have the number 1 pick. Can use the 2nd round pick on DT and the 1st on Luck. That should make everyone happy.

Ok. I agree about the Suh factor your right 1st round DT is not there. But Jake had 18 INT's this time last year as a veteran! Jimmy has 6 as a rookie. He's just gun shy not terrible

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