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Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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bleys Newbie

bleys

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But that's an absolute statement :sosp:

To be clear, the gunner example isn't hypothetical. I saw it happen, and it was in a Panther game.

(not telling which team did it though) :D

yes.. you are correct.. lol just like "killing people" is most of the time a negative thing..

but as to my statement.. generally, I do feel the ends justify the means.. that isn't a bad thing in my opinion, and also that doesn't mean it's always true..

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Happy Panther Grand Master

Happy Panther

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Ha you guys are funny.

This is an exercise in semantics. "Cheating" is much too broad of a term and implies some sort of morality argument. What we are discussing here is simple cost benefit.

Is a helmet to helmet hit "cheating?"

Is a holding call "cheating?"

Is filming the other team's practice "cheating?"

Is steroid use "cheating?"

No these are all rules infractions with various punishments.

Do some teams encourage dirty hits? Do some guys poke you in the eyes in the scrum? Do some guys push off because they think they can get away with it?

There is a fine balance of what you can and can't do in the NFL and it is defined by NFL rules. I reject any arguments of "cheating is wrong" because its all cheating. Where you happen to draw the line is arbitrary, subjective and useless.

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uhh, little bit too many shades there. there's quite a large difference between filming another team practicing and, in the course of a game, holding someone so they don't destroy your QB, or going low while a receiver falls and hitting em in the head.

there are things that are bad sportsmanship, there are things that give a player a totally unfair advantage, and there are things that happen to be often ambiguous and/or done to protect the health of players. biiig difference between the two in my mind. certain actions call fall within one or more of those categories and others and easily be defined as "cheating."

i do not see how filming another team practicing is not cheating...

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carolinarolls

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NO NO NO NO

In order to create a credible product, the league must establish a standard set of rules and apply them as uniformly as possible across the league, not just between 2 teams on the field. The credibility of that product is shot as soon as the fans believe that records, individual and team, are manipulated. What you suggest is that the league has its part time officials orchestrating an entire season at worst, or having significant impact on outcomes at best. They certainly miss calls, maor eoften than desired, but there is no way they would intentionally ignore calls. That would not be good for the game.

If every infraction was called or there was even intent to call every infraction we would just be wrapping up with Super Bowl XVI

..if we were lucky

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