Bad news for Panthers, regarding CBA

[MrBubba]

Other teams are signing players. Seattle just signed Mike Williams to a three year deal

[Erik Stall]

I don't see how that's relevant. Other teams can sign players if they want, but if they don't that doesn't mean they won't in the future.

[Fiz]

i think the herd mentality has shifted away from richardson on this one irt the other owners.

[Pox 08]

Has Charles Johnson made any comments about how he hopes he can remain a Panther?

I don't think Kalil would want to venture off. Nothing he has said, just a gut feeling.

I don't follow Johnson though and don't know anything about him, if he's content here or what not. Anyone know?

[rmoneyg35]

I think one reason why there hasn't been an agreement is because the 18 game season rule. Teams want to make more money where players would want to get paid more if they play more games but they also don't want an 18 game season because they fear it will shorten their careers. I don't want it at all, I think its a bad idea.

One upcoming rule change that will really benefit us is how draft picks won't get paid as much money. I love this idea, how many times have top picks took off with the money and ran? Now they will have to earn their pay and we won't have to worry about another Jamarcus Russell with the new rule.

[Guest]

i think the herd mentality has shifted away from richardson on this one irt the other owners.

Yeah, "Lead the charge, we're right behind you every step of the way Jerry".

(stripes)

[panthers55]

As Fiz alluded above, Richardson may not be the best guy to get information from about the CBA. He is on the extreme hardline fringe at this point which is not where some other very influential owners are like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft. Goodell also seems to want something to get done. So I would think that there will continue to be a lot of back and forth about this but I would think Richardson is not representing the mainstream. I wonder how much power he is being given to negotiate as well. With an extremist view he might find he is losing not gaining support.

[Debil]

As Fiz alluded above, Richardson may not be the best guy to get information from about the CBA. He is on the extreme hardline fringe at this point which is not where some other very influential owners are like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft. Goodell also seems to want something to get done. So I would think that there will continue to be a lot of back and forth about this but I would think Richardson is not representing the mainstream. I wonder how much power he is being given to negotiate as well. With an extremist view he might find he is losing not gaining support.

Well... JR is co-chair of the CBA committee. That is not to say he couldn't be over ruled by the other owners though.

[panthers55]

Well... JR is co-chair of the CBA committee. That is not to say he couldn't be over ruled by the other owners though.

Thats right and I think when they decided to scrap the old agreement, owners were firmly on his side. But as the deadline approaches and the lockout becomes a real possibility, there may be a desire to compromise such as with the 18 game season. JR has continued to take a more hardline approach. It remains to be seen how much of the conversation is reality or posturing at this point.

[Floppin]

As Fiz alluded above, Richardson may not be the best guy to get information from about the CBA. He is on the extreme hardline fringe at this point which is not where some other very influential owners are like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft. Goodell also seems to want something to get done. So I would think that there will continue to be a lot of back and forth about this but I would think Richardson is not representing the mainstream. I wonder how much power he is being given to negotiate as well. With an extremist view he might find he is losing not gaining support.

I believe JR wants to get something done as well. What would be the point of actively seeking to not get a CBA done before the deadline?

In all negotiations there has to be some hard asses, playing a good cop/bad cop routine. JR represents all the things that the owners wished to accomplish and the president of the players union represents everything that they want to accomplish. Between the two are where the negotiations are made.

If anyone thought that these negotiations wouldn't go down to the wire they were sucking on a pipe dream.

[Mother Grabber]

:mad:This makes no f**king sense how Owners and players can't come to dumbass agreement. It's all about money and greed between both parties. It seems both sides could care less about fans right now. They may say they do but behind close doors they could careless. This so f**king dumb.:ma:

Maybe someone (owners) doesn't want an agreement...right now. So, they make unreasonable demands that cannot be met to make sure that there is a lockout. Then the serious negotiations can begin, when they have the upper hand.

[Happy Panther]

Jerry has a duty as the owner to represent the team. Insinuating that the CBA negotiations are not going well doesn't help get Luck or Harbaugh because

1) They might decide to wait a year

2) They may not view JR as a player friendly owner even though he is

Couldn't JR keep his damn mouth shut about the CBA for a couple of weeks?