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OFFICIAL Undrafted Free Agent thread

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2 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:
Panthers signed Miami WR Jacolby George.
George (5’11, 172) is an undersized receiver whose pro day results showed less-than-desirable speed (4.60 40-yard dash) for a player of his size. He held a starting role over each of the last two seasons, totaling 111 receptions for 1,630 yards and 16 touchdowns while averaging 14.7 YPR. He played primarily on the outside as a starter (88.8 percent snaps out wide, per PFF), but his size and lack of top-end speed are unlikely to play well on the outside at the next level. George drew several careless penalties throughout his career and was nearly dismissed from Miami after the 2023 season. He’ll likely get a chance to earn a role as a returner (20 career punt returns) wherever he lands, but there’s a lot that will need to break right for George if he hopes to earn a roster spot in the future.

aha!  returner

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2 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

aha!  returner

But I thought that's why we took that particular RB, because he'd also be a returner for us.

A signing bonus like this means they expect him to make the final roster, just like Coker last year.  If they already think he's making the roster as a returner, I'm looking at that Etienne pick very differently now.

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      Dude... you're just all over the place. You're the one who said T-Mac is better right now than Chark was at his best.
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