An honest look at Bryce Young

[NAS]

20 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

The ravens have the most physically gifted QB going and the sub a TE in for their sneaks 

Great point, sorry mixed you up with the Aggie dude haha

Edited 11 hours ago by NAS

[jfra78]

Just now, NAS said:

Lol so we have to be Ravens now? You think every team has Lamar.  We don’t need Bryce to be Lamar or Josh Allen, just be the best version of himself and we’ll be in great shape 

He not saying he needs to be Lamar. He's saying they even sub a TE for Lamar on sneaks.  Which we should do as well

[NAS]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

He not saying he needs to be Lamar. He's saying they even sub a TE for Lamar on sneaks.  Which we should do as well

My bad totally misread that.  That works in the most obvious situations

[AggieLean]

38 minutes ago, NAS said:

Great point, sorry mixed you up with the Aggie dude haha

The Aggie dude? 

[CRA]

11 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Did the numbers support that his height was an issue? He had few batted passes and PFF said his biggest improvement was throwing over the middle.  As he said he has played football at this height for most of his teenage and adult life at the highest levels. In fact I remember talking heads saying how he seemed to find windows and seams to throw the ball. So for whatever reason it seems he has figured out how to adjust his game to what he does best.

height being an issue doesn't just mean batted balls.  You could argue Bryce minimizes batted balls by adopting other poor habits such as his jump passing and leaving the pocket.   As I said, there are plays you can point to where he clearly was blind to parts of the field/players....which kills plays and opportunity. Which actually means some of the shorter/hot throws when things break down are where his vision gets blocked (and he had below average production all around the line of scrimmage).  

has he figured it out? I mean, he improved off a trainwreck start.  But Bryce Young since arriving in the league (even while figuring it out)......doesn't generate much offensive production vs his peers. 

I just think his ceiling is low.   And that's not in the grand scheme what you want in the NFL.  I think he can develop into a serviceable QB, that will largely always been a middle of the pack or low end starter.   

[CRA]

10 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

The ravens have the most physically gifted QB going and the sub a TE in for their sneaks 

Ravens mixing it up with a random Mark Andrew tush push last year isn't a similar situation.  Lamar has run QB sneaks his entire career.  And often instead of a traditional sneak will even employ a 4th and 1 direct snap to Lamar simply because of how athletic he is (which even Cam did a lot of) and let him pick his own holes.  

[Jaxel]

Are we still arguing that the QB sneak of all plays is some career defining weakness. Teams run an average or 4.5 qb sneaks per year! Yes that average has increased recently with the tush push, but the fact is league average is like 1 per game. It is a non factor.

[CRA]

Just now, Jaxel said:

Are we still arguing that the QB sneak of all plays is some career defining weakness. Teams run an average or 4.5 qb sneaks per year! Yes that average has increased recently with the tush push, but the fact is league average is like 1 per game. It is a non factor.

being arguably the smallest QB in the modern era.....is likely a factor though.  Making that just a QB sneak convo isn't the right convo.