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Panthers hire another analytics/data guy from PFF


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5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have some optimism. There's a difference between being somewhat optimistic and wanting to jump head first into an all-PFF analytics department after two decent light contact practices.

I mean, it could be just me, but I feel we are at hype levels we haven't seen in a LONG time.  Now, whether it is warranted or not, remains to be seen, but I am not the least bit upset that they are sprinting down the current highway.

I haven't been this optimistic about our roster in a long time.  We have some of the best position groups we have had in a few areas.  We only have one glaring weakness in my mind.  (LB)

When was the last time we could say that?  Our WR room is so talented we don't know who is making the roster.  Our offensive line is essentially fixed.  A few years ago, we would have sold our souls just to say that about the line.

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24 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I mean, it could be just me, but I feel we are at hype levels we haven't seen in a LONG time.  Now, whether it is warranted or not, remains to be seen, but I am not the least bit upset that they are sprinting down the current highway.

I haven't been this optimistic about our roster in a long time.  We have some of the best position groups we have had in a few areas.  We only have one glaring weakness in my mind.  (LB)

When was the last time we could say that?  Our WR room is so talented we don't know who is making the roster.  Our offensive line is essentially fixed.  A few years ago, we would have sold our souls just to say that about the line.

"Hype levels" ultimately lean nothing and I honestly think that a lot of the perceived "hype" is largely confirmation bias because when you look most analysts, most still have us near the bottom the league in terms of overall roster strength and expectations on the field this season. 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

"Hype levels" ultimately lean nothing and I honestly think that a lot of the perceived "hype" is largely confirmation bias because when you look most analysts, most still have us near the bottom the league in terms of overall roster strength and expectations on the field this season. 

It is the time of year for hopium, and I embrace it.  I get that.  I am biased.  I feel I should be.

But you know they don't actually pay attention to us.  They aren't going to change their opinion of us no matter how much we "win" the off-season until we show it on the field, and I get that angle too.  Not like it benefits them to be high on a small market team like us.

I am a fan, and I am here to ROOT.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

"Hype levels" ultimately lean nothing and I honestly think that a lot of the perceived "hype" is largely confirmation bias because when you look most analysts, most still have us near the bottom the league in terms of overall roster strength and expectations on the field this season. 

Yeah, I would caution most Panther fans to ultimately realize that this team is still a very safe bet to be a top 10 draft pick in 2026. 

What we want to see is roster progression. Actually starting to win is a longer term goal. Welcome if it comes early, to be sure, but definitely not expected.

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On 7/26/2025 at 11:16 AM, TD alt said:

I don't mind going all-in, because people are already noticing a difference from just two practices (and that's without DB).

They call that premature. Like waiting for results and then using analytics on that process to improve it would be a bad thing. If PFF was infallible then their grades wouldn't be so debatable at times. 

 

 

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Looks like similar to other NFL teams and sports media that the Panthers are leaning in to PFF. Like basic statistics, their grades might not be the end all be all but there is a LOT more information available through them then just their grades.

I once doubted their "arbitrary grading" (my own words here on the Huddle yeeeaaars ago) but looking at all of the data (AND watching film to try and see what they were seeing) they have it became obvious I was missing out by not considering them.

At the very least, PFF metrics and grades hold a lot more weight in Panthers-related debate going forward as the team continues to hire former PFF guys.

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