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Micah officially requests a trade

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10 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Dude, we have more than one guy to stop the run. Have you really researched our free agent acquisitions (much less the rookies)? I don't expect that to be a big issue this season, with or without DB.

I think you heavily underestimate the value DB brings.  He set an NFL record for tackles by a DT in 23'.

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2 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I don't see how you are saying I am painting him any sort of way.  I told you my gut feeling, based on nothing, and provided a quick AI overview seemingly garnered from public opinion backing that up.

Here's a more in depth look.

 

Public Spats:
Parsons has been involved in public disagreements with former teammates, media members, and even the Cowboys' owner, Jerry Jones. 
 
Perceived Selfishness:
Some have criticized his focus on individual accolades over team success, with one former player calling him the "most selfish player" on the team according to a Yardbarker article. 

And yet, the players are on his side according to Rapsheet. There are always more than side to a story.

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I think you heavily underestimate the value DB brings.  He set an NFL record for tackles by a DT in 23'.

DB, as good as he is---and he is good---is not Parsons. Parsons is great!

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Just now, TD alt said:

And yet, the players are on his side according to Rapsheet. There are always more than side to a story.

Do you hear this type of stuff being said about DB?  Parsons has the diva aura.  I stay away from that type of player.

A lot of players would say something positive rather than deal with the heat.  Especially if they want him out.

I feel when players are outspoken about how selfish you are, knowing it will be reported, that is very telling.

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8 minutes ago, TD alt said:

That's exactly what I was thinking, but people are telling me that it's a whole bunch.

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I mean, arguably the greatest pass rusher in the NFL currently for a 3rd and Derrick Brown??? That's very one sided, IMO.

Yes, Parsons does get injured a lot, so there is that. But Brown, although very good, is not a significant impact in the pass rush. He definitely could end up being that at some point but he absolutely has not been that so far.

Parsons is easily worth DB and a 3rd. 

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10 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Do you hear this type of stuff being said about DB?  Parsons has the diva aura.  I stay away from that type of player.

A lot of players would say something positive rather than deal with the heat.  Especially if they want him out.

I feel when players are outspoken about how selfish you are, knowing it will be reported, that is very telling.

It was an ex-Cowboy, THE Jesse Holley, that made that statement. Come on, man. 

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I mean, arguably the greatest pass rusher in the NFL currently for a 3rd and Derrick Brown??? That's very one sided, IMO.

Yes, Parsons does get injured a lot, so there is that. But Brown, although very good, is not a significant impact in the pass rush. He definitely could end up being that at some point but he absolutely has not been that so far.

Parsons is easily worth DB and a 3rd. 

Different position, different focus.  DB swallows the run.  90 PFF grade and NFL record in tackles for the position.

We were gouged without him last year.

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12 minutes ago, TD alt said:

 

Parsons is still young, so the "one piece away" argument isn't really potent to me. People usually say that when they don't want to pay a vet who's five years older.

The fact that Parsons is just entering his prime kinda makes having him worth it. If Parsons isn't worth it, I don't know who is. Like I said (if he actually ends up on the market), he willing suitors, with loads of cash, will not be a problem for him.

 

Parsons is 26 Derrick Brown is 27. Neither of them are that young. But they are both in their prime no doubt.

If we didn't pass on him and Parsons were already here we could be having a different conversation or we could be having the same conversation as the Cowboys. It's all speculation. But we had our chance if we wanted him.

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5 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Doesn't fit the way Dan is trying to build the side IMO 

This is true but this is all fantasy anyway. Dallas very rarely lets great players in their prime get away. 

He will get paid and remain a Cowboy.

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1 minute ago, TD alt said:

It was an ex-Cowboy, THE Jesse Holley, that made that statement. Come on, man. 

You are going to find a way to discredit everything I say while ignoring the questions and evidence.  Not sure how we are supposed to have a conversation like this.

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1 minute ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Different position, different focus.  DB swallows the run.  90 PFF grade and NFL record in tackles for the position.

We were gouged without him last year.

I don't think there is a single GM in the NFL who wouldn't make that trade, if given the option. 

DB is a very good player. Parsons is tracking towards a HOF career.

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