Micah officially requests a trade

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I know very little about the dude.  Wild to me you have this take.  If you read, I said early I had this feeling and wasn't sure why.  I have just looked all this stuff up while bickering with you guys about it.

What personal beef could I possibly have?  You think all this was made up and completely baseless?  I didn't make his teammate say that, or post the stuff on Reddit from a year ago just to argue with you today.

I mean....if you had to go research all this to support your claims and the best you could do was one guy and a Reddit thread, I am going to definitely say that this seems to be some personal grudge or some other issue you are having.

I am literally sending this thread to my friends who are die hard Dallas Cowboy fans and we are laughing our asses off in a group chat. 

If nothing else, thanks for the entertainment.

[frankw]

Parsons to Peppers comparison is an interesting one.

Julius played 17 seasons though. I have a hard time seeing anywhere near the same for the newer generations of players. So many variables and distractions now. Aaron Donald only played 10 seasons. Von Miller is only in his 13th season but he's gotta be as close as he can be to done at this point. It's just a different league now.

[BlazeCarolina]

Just now, TD alt said:

Dude, you've taken what an old Cowboy player, who's making his living in the local media, and run away with it. That is overblown. All you really have to do is look at the current evidence. The preponderance of teammates and fans alike are on Parsons' side. 

You keep ignoring the questions.  I don't know how many more times or ways I can say it.  This didn't come from nowhere.  I avoid players like this.  We have a difference of opinion.  That's ok.  I assure you.

[jb2288]

Just now, frankw said:

Parsons to Peppers comparison is an interesting one.

Julius played 17 seasons though. I have a hard time seeing anywhere near the same for the newer generations of players. So many variables and distractions now. Aaron Donald only played 10 seasons. Von Miller is only in his 13th season but he's gotta be as close as he can be to done at this point. It's just a different league now.

Would you take 8 (hypothetical) seasons here with slightly higher production than Pep? 

[BlazeCarolina]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean....if you had to go research all this to support your claims and the best you could do was one guy and a Reddit thread, I am going to definitely say that this seems to be some personal grudge or some other issue you are having.

I am literally sending this thread to my friends who are die hard Dallas Cowboy fans and we are laughing our asses off in a group chat. 

If nothing else, thanks for the entertainment.

It was the first thing that came up when I Googled it.  I am sitting right here.  It's not hard.  Not like I put a ton of effort into this.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Would you take 8 (hypothetical) seasons here with slightly higher production than Pep? 

The elephant in the room is this is the Panthers we're talking about. Who knows when we're going to be truly competitive again and for how long anyways. And at the end of the day you still need that guy behind center. Teams that traded for Khalil Mack thought they hit the big time. Haven't accomplished anything.

Edited August 1 by frankw

[csx]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean....if you had to go research all this to support your claims and the best you could do was one guy and a Reddit thread, I am going to definitely say that this seems to be some personal grudge or some other issue you are having.

I am literally sending this thread to my friends who are die hard Dallas Cowboy fans and we are laughing our asses off in a group chat. 

If nothing else, thanks for the entertainment.

Oooh....The genius Dallas fans

[BlazeCarolina]

Here's another article alluding to his attitude issues that I clearly made up from Sports Illustrated to push my narrative.  @kungfoodude I request a trade for you to the Cowboys fans.

Jokes.  It ain't that serious boys.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/brian-schottenheimer-nsfw-quote-describe-dallas-cowboys-offensive-plan

[BlazeCarolina]

Here's another article stating they wanted to trade him years ago because of him rubbing teammates the wrong way.  where does this all come from @TD alt?

https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/jane-slater-bombshell-report-cowboys-concerns-with-micah-parsons/

[csx]

If he gets traded its to a competitive AFC team. This isn't worth getting worked up about 

[DJ feed me moore]

4 hours ago, Captroop said:

Happened once in my Carolina fandom. I really wanted Greg Olsen and we took Beason. We ended up getting Olsen later. And that worked out pretty well, I'd say. I really wanted Parsons over Horn, so if we have a chance to grab him, I'm 100% for it!

crazy Rhule a literal PSU alum and lifer didn't take parsons. Useless bum of a HC.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Parsons to Peppers comparison is an interesting one.

Julius played 17 seasons though. I have a hard time seeing anywhere near the same for the newer generations of players. So many variables and distractions now. Aaron Donald only played 10 seasons. Von Miller is only in his 13th season but he's gotta be as close as he can be to done at this point. It's just a different league now.

Parsons is unlikely to have a career as long as Peppers but if he maintains the same "level" of production and plays 12 seasons, it would result in a 124.68 sack career.

I got this number by taking the percentage drop in Peppers year 5-12 drop from year 1-4 and extrapolating it out from Parsons sack rate. I also used the same game played percentage as a factor.

That would be a top 30 career sack total and he would basically be 1-2 seasons of production away(which is very reasonable) from being top 10 all time.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Here's another article alluding to his attitude issues that I clearly made up from Sports Illustrated to push my narrative.  @kungfoodude I request a trade for you to the Cowboys fans.

Jokes.  It ain't that serious boys.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/brian-schottenheimer-nsfw-quote-describe-dallas-cowboys-offensive-plan

Did you even read that article you linked??

LOL

[TD alt]

Just now, BlazeCarolina said:

You keep ignoring the questions.  I don't know how many more times or ways I can say it.  This didn't come from nowhere.  I avoid players like this.  We have a difference of opinion.  That's ok.  I assure you.

I have answered your questions. I essentially told you that what Holley said is a load of crap (and that his teammates, per Rappaport, and nearly every---really every---Cowboy fan that I know of, supports Parsons and wants him to continue to be a Cowboy). I told you that DB is a good teammate and player that is not as outspoken as Parsons. I also told you that DB is not nearly as impactful upon the game as Parsons, which, in my opinion, is much more important when you weigh things out. I told you that Holley is not an ex-teammate of Parsons, but also hinted that he's a dude trying to make a good living as he wasn't able to stick in the NFL. 

I respect the fact that you gravitate towards Brown, the "choir boy," if you will, but I disagree wholeheartedly with you trying to paint Parsons as some troublemaker and bad teammate. And, for me, Parsons' talent, body of work and career trajectory more than justifies Carolina trading DB and a third.