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6 minutes ago, t96 said:

Completely fair until we see some actual results under Tepper

I also noted that we have their panels 32nd ranked roster, which I also agree with.

Hence why I get a little perplexed by the minority opinions here talking playoffs. I do understand how weak our division is and favorable the schedule is but.....we will rarely not be the least talented team on the field, if ever.

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11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I also noted that we have their panels 32nd ranked roster, which I also agree with.

Hence why I get a little perplexed by the minority opinions here talking playoffs. I do understand how weak our division is and favorable the schedule is but.....we will rarely not be the least talented team on the field, if ever.

I actually am not so sure about 32nd ranked roster, we do have a ton of talent on offense outside of QB (granted, young and "unproven") and while the D has a ton of holes we do have a few potential superstars there to build around in Brown and Horn. I think our roster minus Bryce is like 18-23ish league-wide. Including QB in the equation may drop it a bit, but admittedly I am very low on Bryce.

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31 minutes ago, t96 said:

I actually am not so sure about 32nd ranked roster, we do have a ton of talent on offense outside of QB (granted, young and "unproven") and while the D has a ton of holes we do have a few potential superstars there to build around in Brown and Horn. I think our roster minus Bryce is like 18-23ish league-wide. Including QB in the equation may drop it a bit, but admittedly I am very low on Bryce.

I would disagree. The only real proven talent on the roster that are Lewis, Hunt, Moton, Hubbard, and D. Brown. One could argue Moehrig. The overwhelming bulk is a mix of incomplete grades, unproven talent or known weaknesses. 

I think when you factor in the depth after the starters, it's overwhelmingly 32nd ranked. 

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Just now, Jay Roosevelt said:

No way do we have the 32nd ranked roster. Not in a league where the Saints, Colts and Giants exist.

I mean, the Colts and Giants are so unbelievably better than our roster it is rather laughable to even suggest this. New Orleans is a bad roster but still a good bottom 5 candidate.

The closest is likely the Pats. But when you look at our rosters side by side, I would say we are worse overall.

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46 minutes ago, t96 said:

I actually am not so sure about 32nd ranked roster, we do have a ton of talent on offense outside of QB (granted, young and "unproven") and while the D has a ton of holes we do have a few potential superstars there to build around in Brown and Horn. I think our roster minus Bryce is like 18-23ish league-wide. Including QB in the equation may drop it a bit, but admittedly I am very low on Bryce.

Saints are much worse.

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18 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

No way do we have the 32nd ranked roster. Not in a league where the Saints, Colts and Giants exist.

I mean, when you actually start putting player vs player?  I don't think it's controversial.  Carolina still almost fully banking on hope that dudes pan out for a high % of the agreement here.  So proven edges out potential when you start putting them head to head. 

 

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take lead dogs at WR.  Pittman, Nabors, and Olave.  Lead dogs elsewhere got more proof in the pudding.  They all got 1k WRs.  And WR is going to be maybe the key area people are making a case for Carolina to be higher.  

 

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13 minutes ago, CRA said:

take lead dogs at WR.  Pittman, Nabors, and Olave.  Lead dogs elsewhere got more proof in the pudding.  They all got 1k WRs.  And WR is going to be maybe the key area people are making a case for Carolina to be higher.  

 

The hype on the WR corps is scary and unfair to the guys we have, IMO. 

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32 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The hype on the WR corps is scary and unfair to the guys we have, IMO. 

Nothing wrong w/ be excited about the potential.  But Nabors and Tmac ain't going to fair the same in a head to head ranking like this.  One still waiting to log a real NFL catch and the other has put in the books already. 

and we have been so bad, I just don't see the point of being offended we are last.  We deserve to be defaulted worse when it is close based on our proven track record of late. 

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