Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

And yet he played and played well. I'm reasonably positive they're comfortable with his knee situation if they decided to extend him. I can understand if we signed him for 5-6 years, but it's a 2-year extension.

We have plenty on this team to be legitimately worried about; Taylor Moton is not one of them.

Sorry man, a 300+ pounder on the wrong side of 30 dealing with chronic knee issues is definitely a concern. BEFORE this extension most of us were saying that we hope he can hold up over the course of the season much less future seasons.

Interpret Moron's words carefully.

"Looking forward, I do believe I have another contract in me," Moton said, per The Athletic. "But right now my focus is on the 2025 season and making sure I do whatever I can to have the best season I can for everybody involved."

"I do believe I have another contract in me." Not years of play, another CONTRACT.

I hope I'm reading way too much into all this but I think we just got fleeced.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, PantherChris said:

Also include "he graded out as the 6th best RT in the NFL last year"

also include "he is currently already under contract for this year"

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Your truth. Mine would look something like this…

 

”Panthers just extended their RT. He’s been a steady presence for years. This helps solidify our OL and secure it will remain a strength. Hopefully, he’ll be a career Panther.”

Your intelligent NFL friend likely would’ve responded with something like, “Nice signing. Helps Bryce continue to grow with good support from his OL.”

Because you left out the key pertinent CURRENT information. Your mindset is where the Panthers have been stuck for years. You don't pay someone for what they have done in the past, you pay them for what you expect them to do in the future. You shouldn't expect a 31 year old lineman with chronic knee issues who missed time last year and was barely able to practice to continue to hold up.

[PantherChris]

11 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

That was also counting 4.8m for Moton from his previous restructure. 

Taylor's previous Cap hit was 31m not sure were you got 4.8

[PNW_PantherMan]

So we waited until the offseason was basically over to do this and clear cap room up?  For what?  This is stupid I'm sorry.

[carpanfan96]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yes and not his new and likely larger actual cap figure.

Yea, I was just saying. 

 

I mean... It's going to go way up. 

Dude is basically playing the next three years with 89% of his contract fully guaranteed. 

[carpanfan96]

1 minute ago, PantherChris said:

Taylor's previous Cap hit was 31m not sure were you got 4.8

He had a 4.8m cap hit for 2026 on his last deal from it being a void year. 

[PantherChris]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

He had a 4.8m cap hit for 2026 on his last deal from it being a void year. 

Ahhhh gotcha thought you meant this year.

 

Yeah those dumb fitt void years.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Yea, I was just saying. 

I mean... It's going to go way up. 

Dude is basically playing the next three years with 89% of his contract fully guaranteed. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sorry man, a 300+ pounder on the wrong side of 30 dealing with chronic knee issues is definitely a concern. BEFORE this extension most of us were saying that we hope he can hold up over the course of the season much less future seasons.

Interpret Moron's words carefully.

"Looking forward, I do believe I have another contract in me," Moton said, per The Athletic. "But right now my focus is on the 2025 season and making sure I do whatever I can to have the best season I can for everybody involved."

"I do believe I have another contract in me." Not years of play, another CONTRACT.

I hope I'm reading way too much into all this but I think we just got fleeced.

Yeah, I think you are. In terms of how professional athletes think about these things another contract and years of play are basically the same thing. And I'm not saying it's not a concern; just that I don't think we decide to extend him without thoroughly examining his knee and having confidence it wouldn't be a major issue for the life of the contract.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Yea, I was just saying. 

 

I mean... It's going to go way up. 

Dude is basically playing the next three years with 89% of his contract fully guaranteed. 

on admittedly bum knees

Oh wee mayne 

[PNW_PantherMan]

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Supposedly we have like $19 mil in cap already available. If we are having to "clear" cap space for a move......this does not sound good. This sounds like the prelude to a panic move.

Tepper's gonna fire me if the current roster takes the field for 17 games, so now its time for a Madden trade.  Hold my beer.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Yeah, I think you are. In terms of how professional athletes think about these things another contract and years of play are basically the same thing. And I'm not saying it's not a concern; just that I don't think we decide to extend him without thoroughly examining his knee and having confidence it wouldn't be a major issue for the life of the contract.

A doctor can't tell you how things are going to go with a chronic issue that's largely about pain management. Something one person can deal with another can't and it's not really about pain tolerance as much as it is just variance from one individual to the next. One person can be dealing with an issue that the images look like he should be barely getting around and he's actually doing alright. Another person can be dealing with an issue that doesn't look all that bad in images but he's practically crippled with pain. 

The best indicator is how things have been progressing and last year things took a considerable turn for the worst so obviously we decided to pay him. LOL 

[PantherChris]

Ahhh much better should have done this to chuck a long time ago.