Tetairoa McMillan

[Panthering]

17 hours ago, Icege said:

You're not talking about this play where Bryce got clotheslined while trying to throw it, are you? Great adjustment by TMac to one hand it even with DPI. Not quite sure how folks can use this play to dog on TMac or Bryce, but go off?

 

 

This play is when I knew we actually hit on our #8 pick. Granted, I was high on him already based on what I'd seen, but that got me excited.

[Icege]

39 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That ball landed in the third row of the stands. If trying to paint that as a communication and a "missed throw" is the best defense there is no defense. XL would've literally had to have been over 10' tall with a kangaroo's vertical to attempt to make a play on that. And even then, go back and watch. The ball still wasn't at the back pylon. It went through the side of the endzone. Even the manufactured excuse doesn't line up.

I've yet to see you acknowledge that Nijman immediately gave up pressure inside and that TMac ran the wrong route. Why do you not believe that those incidents didn't have any effect on the play?

It's strange to focus on an errant throw during a broken play without being realistic about what broke down when.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Icege said:

I've yet to see you acknowledge that Nijman immediately gave up pressure inside and that TMac ran the wrong route. Why do you not believe that those incidents didn't have any effect on the play?

It's strange to focus on an errant throw during a broken play without being realistic about what broke down when.

Yeah, he did. But what absolutely killed any chance of success is that our QB panicked and sailed the ball through the endzone uncatchable. That's why the focus is on that. Why do we need to do all these mental gymnastics to keep trying to come up with excuses to cover for the worst starting QB in the NFL over the past three years? What else do we kneed to see from him to admit he ain't ir? You don't trade up to #1 overall to draft a QB that needs everything to go perfectly to succeed. You're doing that because you think you're drafting a guy who can carry an offense.

[Icege]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, he did. But what absolutely killed any chance of success is that our QB panicked and sailed the ball through the endzone uncatchable. That's why the focus is on that. Why do we need to do all these mental gymnastics to keep trying to come up with excuses to cover for the worst starting QB in the NFL over the past three years? What else do we kneed to see from him to admit he ain't it?

So you think that the play is solely Bryce's fault and that all 31 other QBs turn that play into a passing TD in spite of an incorrect route from WR1, immediate blindside pressure, a lazy route on the opposite side, and WR2 not on the same page as the QB?

That's a lot of oversimplification just to be able to blame one player.

[shaqattaq]

18 hours ago, Icege said:

You're not talking about this play where Bryce got clotheslined while trying to throw it, are you? Great adjustment by TMac to one hand it even with DPI. Not quite sure how folks can use this play to dog on TMac or Bryce, but go off?

 

 

That sure looks like a catch to me!

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, Icege said:

So you think that the play is solely Bryce's fault and that all 31 other QBs turn that play into a passing TD in spite of an incorrect route from WR1, immediate blindside pressure, a lazy route on the opposite side, and WR2 not on the same page as the QB?

That's a lot of oversimplification just to be able to blame one player.

No, it wasn't solely his fault. It's just that his decision and execution ultimately ensured the failure. He gave us no opportunity to succeed. You can't sling the ball through the endzone in that situation. You have to put a ball into the field of play and hope to get lucky... or just throw it to the open TE. That would be the preferable solution but we're talking about Bryce Young here so just give me a jumpball in the endzone. Anything is better than slinging it through the endzone. Hell, even if you get sacked maybe you fumble and keep the ball alive.

[CRA]

16 minutes ago, Icege said:

So you think that the play is solely Bryce's fault and that all 31 other QBs turn that play into a passing TD in spite of an incorrect route from WR1, immediate blindside pressure, a lazy route on the opposite side, and WR2 not on the same page as the QB?

That's a lot of oversimplification just to be able to blame one player.

I'd wager if you put all 31 QBs in that exact spot....most end up with something better than what Bryce did there. 

They see Saunders.  Or they at least put the ball in the realm of play for XL (4th down is an INT folks can handle).  Or they just tuck it and cut back inside and try to fight for 1 yard if nothing exists.  I don't think the majority of the 31 chuck it into the stands on 4th and 1

[shaqattaq]

31 minutes ago, Icege said:

I've yet to see you acknowledge that Nijman immediately gave up pressure inside and that TMac ran the wrong route. Why do you not believe that those incidents didn't have any effect on the play?

It's strange to focus on an errant throw during a broken play without being realistic about what broke down when.

Both of those things happened, and XL was supposed to be on the back pylon. None of that means that Bryce doesn't tuck and at least try to leap for 1 damn yard and the 1st down. That was a stupid play. In fact, it was so stupid that it stood out in a litany of stupid plays (not solely Bryce, the whole team made stupid plays).

Edited 6 hours ago by shaqattaq

[RumHam]

On 9/7/2025 at 5:51 PM, tukafan21 said:

My bad my Wildcat brother

I feel like I spoke it into existence for him to become a Panther, and all I did was saddle my GOAT with this team, this offense, and unfortunately this "Quarterback"

My excitement of the last 4 months since we drafted him has quickly turned into "oh poo, please just don't ruin his career before it's able to get off the ground and show him to be the player I know he can be"

The only guy to do something on Sunday, and it wasn't spectacular. If Theilen is here, we win this game. I'm glad he will pan out unlike our last first round wide receiver draft pick that'll be gone by the deadline. Can't wait for Tet to get an actual QB.

[RumHam]

2 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Both of those things happened, and XL was supposed to be on the back pylon. None of that means that Bryce doesn't tuck and at least try to leap for 1 damn yard and the 1st down. That was a stupid play. In fact, it was so stupid that it stood out in a litany of stupid plays.

Bryce has regressed and you saw it in the preseason. He's scared again. He's not finding open receivers or they're not getting open (AGAIN) 

[Tr3ach]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean, when it's Bryce throwing the ball managing 5 catches for 68 yards is pretty impressive.

I would say it helped him a couple times when he wasnt very open and the pass being short helped.  Also Bryce is fine in the short and intermediate timing game which is tmacs strength atm.

[LinvilleGorge]

18 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I would say it helped him a couple times when he wasnt very open and the pass being short helped.  Also Bryce is fine in the short and intermediate timing game which is tmacs strength atm.

If we just want to look at the simplest of passes, those thrown five air yards or less, Young completed just 56% of attempts (#29) with a 13% success rate (#29), -0.54 EPA per attempt, and a mere 2.8 yards per attempt (#27).

Bryce isn't "fine" at any aspect of NFL QBing.

[tukafan21]

4 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Game one is a bit early for the "on pace" thing. 

Jacksonville would be "on pace" for 3400 yards of rushing this season...

 

3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

"on pace" after one game is kinda silly. Derrick Henry is on pace for over 3000 yards rushing and 17 fumbles. 

doesn't really matter though. Defenses are going to take Tet away and make Renfrow and XL beat them. He'll get tons of garbage time crossing routes for ten yards though. Hopefully he avoids the Bryce young hospital balls.

Yes and no

I'm not using it as a way of saying "he's going to end up with these stats at the end of the season"

But more of a way of saying to the people who are saying he didn't impress them, that they're not seeing the forest through the trees.  I'd bet those same people who are saying they weren't impressed, if you had told them before the game, that he'd end up with 85 catches for 1,150 yards this year, they'd say that was a great rookie season (because it would be).

So I'm just pointing out that it's a bit disingenuous to say this game didn't impress them, but knowing they would be impressed by that season long stat line if he had the same output every week.

[Tr3ach]

40 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we just want to look at the simplest of passes, those thrown five air yards or less, Young completed just 56% of attempts (#29) with a 13% success rate (#29), -0.54 EPA per attempt, and a mere 2.8 yards per attempt (#27).

Bryce isn't "fine" at any aspect of NFL QBing.

Again, his underthrown balls helped tmac in this game because tmac wasnt separated.   In this singular game, what play would he have had greatly improved numbers from?