Where does Bryce rank as a draft bust?

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, KillerKat said:

The worst trade in NFL history.

Walker, Wilson, and Watson were 10x worse.

 

It's not even the worst panther trade, Id say Gilbert has that crown. 

[carpanfan96]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I said it leading up to the draft that I have no idea what the evaluators are looking at when they watch this guy on a college field and translate that to elite QB prospect. He checked zero physical boxes and nothing about his play stylistically translated.

I said that in the lead up to the draft. Said no way you can take him top 5-10. He had happy feet issues at Alabama, he had to play off schedule. Small frame, small height, adequate arm strength, couldn't process at the line well. Just never got how he was considered QB 1 in that draft. I think I had him 4th or 5th. 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Sunk cost is for moving forward.  We’re looking back at who’s the biggest bust.  The cost is relevant.

Trading the best WR in many years for a bust QB will go down as one of the biggest blunders ever sadly.

[45catfan]

I got pooed for hating the trade up in the first place and then again when I thought Stroud should have been the pick.

[PNW_PantherMan]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Walker, Wilson, and Watson were 10x worse.

 

It's not even the worst panther trade, Id say Gilbert has that crown. 

Not sure how you can argue Gilbert being worse?  It was bad but this one takes the top spot.

[carpanfan96]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Walker, Wilson, and Watson were 10x worse.

 

It's not even the worst panther trade, Id say Gilbert has that crown. 

2 firsts, 2 seconds, plus DJ Moore (top 15 WR in the NFL) for a small and slight framed QB who can't process the line, has happy feet, and at best an adequate arm...

 

That's way worse than the Gilbert trade and it's not even close. 

 

It's at least the worst Panthers trade by far. 

Edited 8 hours ago by carpanfan96

[45catfan]

Our biggest draft bust, no doubt.  Not sure where he'd rank in NFL history.

[KillerKat]

14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Walker, Wilson, and Watson were 10x worse.

 

It's not even the worst panther trade, Id say Gilbert has that crown. 

Wrong.

[HaricotVert]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I don’t see how you can say that they don’t matter.  We gave up a haul and the 1st rounder became the 1st overall pick the following year.  It’s a tragedy.

Because that doesnt have any impact on the fact that he was widely expected to succeed in the NFL and he shouldnt even be a back-up.  Someone was going to take him in the top 5 it just happens that we made some dumb choices to do it.

Maybe MAYBE he has value as a Taysom Hill type gimmick but he is a bust in his own right without regard to what the team did to get him.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

2 firsts, 2 seconds, plus DJ Moore (top 15 WR in the NFL) for a small and slight framed QB who can't process the line, has happy feet, and at best an adequate arm...

 

That's way worse than the Gilbert trade and it's not even close. 

 

It's at least the worst Panthers trade by far. 

Gilbert was 2 1sts for a decent starting DT.  A bad deal but I can't see how its rationally worse than this.

[Proudiddy]

walk off #1.  And not because I’m a panthers fan or suffering from recency bias.  I don’t know how it is debatable.

again, Russell had all the tools.  Same with Leaf.  And at times flashed.  Both either had too many demons off the field or just didn’t give a poo for it to become consistent or expected and eventually flamed out chasing their demons.  If they could’ve locked in, they were fun to watch.

Bryce is like watching fuging paint dry, but in a house full of asbestos and the paint is lead.  And the house is on fire.  And you’re tied to a chair.  And a sink hole has broken the ground all around the house to create an inescapable death trap of a moat.  And asteroids are slowly approaching the house.  That’s watching Bryce.

[Proudiddy]

7 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Gilbert was 2 1sts for a decent starting DT.  A bad deal but I can't see how its rationally worse than this.

Again, I think it’s important to consider Gilbert was a solid, serviceable player for many years.  Russell and Leaf were serviceable while they played.  Not great.  Bryce is not serviceable.  Bryce is not average.  There was a stat at some point prior to that end of season stretch last year that said he was statistically the worst passer in the history of the league with the amount of starts he’s logged.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Again, I think it’s important to consider Gilbert was a solid, serviceable player for many years.

He's talked about like he's the worst thing in Panthers history, but he wasn't even bad.  He just wasn't worth what he cost.  But he was still good enough to be a starter in the NFL.

[Proudiddy]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

He's talked about like he's the worst thing in Panthers history, but he wasn't even bad.  He just wasn't worth what he cost.  But he was still good enough to be a starter in the NFL.

Damn straight.  I honestly think most that bring him up didn’t watch those years.  Or not closely.  He was really solid to good.  It was just a bad deal because of the assets we gave up for him.