Does Canalas trust Bryce?

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

He was benched with zero plans for him to start ever again. If not for Andy's accident he would had to compete for his job this past offseason. That's if he was still here. 

I literally laughed into the phone when the ticket rep was pushing that line to me to renew PSLs after Dalton’sfirst game and I said anyone thinking Dalton could finish the season was a sucker. That was the pitch but never the reality. Bryce was being coached up for the inevitable. If that was true they would never have resigned Dalton this year but here he is waiting to do it all over again.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Waldo said:

I literally laughed into the phone when the ticket rep was pushing that line to me to renew PSLs after Dalton’sfirst game and I said anyone thinking Dalton could finish the season was a sucker. That was the pitch but never the reality. Bryce was being coached up for the inevitable. If that was true they would never have resigned Dalton this year but here he is waiting to do it all over again.

Dalton will not be here next season. I'm guessing Young will be here unless he's traded. They still control him for 2 more years so who knows. Who the starter will be i haven't a clue as I left my crystal ball in my other pants.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Dalton will not be here next season. I'm guessing Young will be here unless he's traded. They still control him for 2 more years so who knows. Who the starter will be i haven't a clue as I left my crystal ball in my other pants.

If he keeps looking like trash, we should try to trade him for anything we can get and when no one bites just cut him. $12M is too much for a backup QB with no future.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Dalton will not be here next season. I'm guessing Young will be here unless he's traded. They still control him for 2 more years so who knows. Who the starter will be i haven't a clue as I left my crystal ball in my other pants.

He shouldn't be here this season either but they l literally resigned him. I have no idea what next year will bring but if Young gets benched I would put $10 on him playing again regardless. 

I think it's a trade and for anything to just move it to the past like teams tend to do. If it gets really bad with no upside then they might have to cut him is my guess

[Jon Snow]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

If he keeps looking like trash, we should try to trade him for anything we can get and when no one bites just cut him. $12M is too much for a backup QB with no future.

Their bast chance would be after this season, barring a miraculous turnaround in his play. But I think he will do just enough for the team to keep him on the roster in hopes a miracle happens until his rookie contract is up.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Their bast chance would be after this season, barring a miraculous turnaround in his play. But I think he will do just enough for the team to keep him on the roster in hopes a miracle happens until his rookie contract is up.

Next year would be the end of his rookie contract minus picking up his 5th year option.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

He shouldn't be here this season either but they l literally resigned him. I have no idea what next year will bring but if Young gets benched I would put $10 on him playing again regardless. 

I think it's a trade and for anything to just move it to the past like teams tend to do. If it gets really bad with no upside then they might have to cut him is my guess

Honestly, they needed to do this to force a decision once and for all. At least I hope that was the motivation.

They know Andy isn't going to win many if any games at all so it's going to be Young or the next guy from the draft. They didn't want a backup coming in and winning a game or two to knock them further down the draft board. 

If that wasn't the plan going into this season then I'm not sure what we are doing here.

[Butterflyj30]

Nope and he may bench him again

[carpanfan96]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Not sure how anyone can be 100% sure that Tepper will not fire someone.  Even Tepper himself.

Tepper wouldn't be able to pull a new coach in worth a damn if he fires Canales for not getting BY to work. So he essentially has to give Canales a shot with his own QB. Which means Canales is here for 1-2 more seasons at least. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

I honestly believe people who think Tepper was willing to end the Bryce Young experiment and go for Cam Ward. Then Dalton got injured and completely screwed it up. 

But to answer the topic. No it is obvious that Canales doesn’t trust Bryce. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Tepper wouldn't be able to pull a new coach in worth a damn if he fires Canales for not getting BY to work. So he essentially has to give Canales a shot with his own QB. Which means Canales is here for 1-2 more seasons at least. 

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Honestly, they needed to do this to force a decision once and for all. At least I hope that was the motivation.

They know Andy isn't going to win many if any games at all so it's going to be Young or the next guy from the draft. They didn't want a backup coming in and winning a game or two to knock them further down the draft board. 

If that wasn't the plan going into this season then I'm not sure what we are doing here.

Im not sure they are sure of that they are doing here at this point. Dalton being brought back was a huge red flag just on availability given the situation. A HC in year 2 trying to tank or put draft position above winning would be wild. That sure as hell isn't earning a year 3. It's great for the next guy but not for them. 

If Young doesn't turn it around meaningfully then I don't see how he is here next year one way or the other. How do you bring in a rookie with that in the QB room? If they were going to go Vet they could have signed one on a 2 year deal this year. It reeks to me they didn't 

[Waldo]

7 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Tepper wouldn't be able to pull a new coach in worth a damn if he fires Canales for not getting BY to work. So he essentially has to give Canales a shot with his own QB. Which means Canales is here for 1-2 more seasons at least. 

So far DC's coaching and HC ability is enough reasons for a firing. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Im not sure they are sure of that they are doing here at this point. Dalton being brought back was a huge red flag just on availability given the situation. A HC in year 2 trying to tank or put draft position above winning would be wild. That sure as hell isn't earning a year 3. It's great for the next guy but not for them. 

If Young doesn't turn it around meaningfully then I don't see how he is here next year one way or the other. How do you bring in a rookie with that in the QB room? If they were going to go Vet they could have signed one on a 2 year deal this year. It reeks to me they didn't 

Well your definition of vet is ambiguous. Canales had his chance to pick another guy and chose to stand pat with Andy. That's on him, and Dan to some extent for allowing it or insisting on it, which is worse. Or you can blame Tepper for it all.