Game Observations

[strato]

47 minutes ago, VintagePanther said:

Ironic we’ve been at the very bottom of the league since the burns trade . Brown is still on the team btw . 

Irony yes you could say that as long as there is no intent to claim that because he left we all of a sudden got so bad we are losing all the time. Which it seems like you might be trying to imply. 
Did we lose something? Yes we did. Was it worth 5 years at 28 mil per? Not to my thinking. 
 

[VintagePanther]

1 hour ago, strato said:

First: What do you think the word ‘scapegoating’ means?

Because what I said was not scapegoating. 

They are two different players playing two different roles. 
I simply said two things about Burns, if I recall.
One, basically he is a one dimensional player that is doing well because they have a very strong front in NY. 
Two, I was against paying his price because he is a liability against the run. One dimensional and therefore not worth it. 
Summing it up: he e is a pass rush specialist, about all I have ever felt about him, and his financial demands made him much less of a value.  IMO. 

What is brown one dimension then ? Run stopping ? We are terrible with him playing the run and without him . So what exactly does he bring to the table that makes him worth 100 million no one has answered the question ? 

[VintagePanther]

1 hour ago, strato said:

Irony yes you could say that as long as there is no intent to claim that because he left we all of a sudden got so bad we are losing all the time. Which it seems like you might be trying to imply. 
Did we lose something? Yes we did. Was it worth 5 years at 28 mil per? Not to my thinking. 
 

I meant to say sack wise . Not team wise . But as i stated before give me burns over brown every day . At least i know he gone get sacks and generate pressure  . Idk what ima get from brown he be invisible out there . 

[carpanfan96]

51 minutes ago, VintagePanther said:

I meant to say sack wise . Not team wise . But as i stated before give me burns over brown every day . At least i know he gone get sacks and generate pressure  . Idk what ima get from brown he be invisible out there . 

This be like the Lotulelei vs Short debate. 

Lotulelei didn't show up in the stat sheet much but he made that defense work and without him it went poorly 

 

Top of that, we play a 3-4. 

Brown plays DL and his job is to take up space and blockers, fill his lane and allow the edge behind him the space to make plays. 

Edited 17 hours ago by carpanfan96

[strato]

1 hour ago, VintagePanther said:

I meant to say sack wise . Not team wise . But as i stated before give me burns over brown every day . At least i know he gone get sacks and generate pressure  . Idk what ima get from brown he be invisible out there . 

Okay you don’t like Brown and you think Burns is great I guess. This has reached the end for me. I said what I think you said what you think. We will not agree on this making it pointless to continue. Peace. 

[VintagePanther]

14 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

This be like the Lotulelei vs Short debate. 

Lotulelei didn't show up in the stat sheet much but he made that defense work and without him it went poorly 

 

Top of that, we play a 3-4. 

Brown plays DL and his job is to take up space and blockers, fill his lane and allow the edge behind him the space to make plays. 

That’s my point what he does isn’t worth a 100 million dollars . For a 100 million i need sacks and tfls he does neither . 

[electro's horse]

55 minutes ago, VintagePanther said:

That’s my point what he does isn’t worth a 100 million dollars . For a 100 million i need sacks and tfls he does neither . 

Does it really matter with the current state of the team?

I mean you have to pay someone. There is a salary cap floor. 

Players don’t want to come here or stay here. his contract is not hurting the panthers in any conceivable way, unless it’s stopping us from overpaying mid FAs. But that’s kind of the same problem you’re describing?