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Official Week 4: Panthers at Patriots Gameday Thread


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19 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I get that theory but there isn't a high caliber QB in this draft. Also, Dalton isn't good enough to win a bunch of games. We just need a good enough QB to evaluate other roster talent. Bryce is incapable of that.

I disagree.  The 2024 draft was a once a generation draft, so it's a clear and obvious outlier.  It's going to be a typical 3-4 first round QB draft.  Mateer, Mendoza, Nussmeir and Moore (if declares) all have hallmarks of a QB1.  The only group that needs a QB to help their evaluation is WRs, possibly TEs. 

I can tell you right now that Tet is legit, XL is a bum, Coker is a WR3/WR4 and Renfro is a bandage. Horn isn't getting the snaps regardless of the QB to evaluate. Moore, well...lol. Swapping QBs isn't going to change my mind on any of that.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

from the short video of him yesterday it appears reality is setting in for tepper

I missed that. I tried to view it but for some reason my ancient iPad was only showing me some guy with hair. Did he buy Hair Club for Men recently? 
 

edit: okay found it and played it lol. Btw he looks like his back hurts the way he is walking, might be all that weight he has put on. 

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4 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I disagree.  The 2024 draft was a once a generation draft, so it's a clear and obvious outlier.  It's going to be a typical 3-4 first round QB draft.  Mateer, Mendoza, Nussmeir and Moore (if declares) all have hallmarks of a QB1.  The only group that needs a QB to help their evaluation is WRs, possibly TEs. 

I can tell you right now that Tet is legit, XL is a bum, Coker is a WR3/WR4 and Renfro is a bandage. Horn isn't getting the snaps regardless of the QB to evaluate. Moore, well...lol. Swapping QBs isn't going to change my mind on any of that.

I am pretty unimpressed by the 2025 draft holdovers. Beck, Allar, Nussmeier, etc. So far it looks heavy with Day 2 and 3 QB's early. Time will tell.

I am less concerned about the QB at the moment. The team is too bad. This team needs talent and playing ability. Not ceiling, not RAS BS. Players that can become core guys.

IDGAF if that is a QB or not. Just get players.

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