Should we roll the dice on....

[Jay Roosevelt]

One guy I wouldn't mind us taking a flyer on for a late round pick is Aidan O'Connell from the Raiders.

I got to watch him play a lot his rookie year since my dad is a Raiders fan and I think he's got starter potential.

If nothing else he can be a solid backup/bridge QB until we draft a QB in a couple years.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

One guy I wouldn't mind us taking a flyer on for a late round pick is Aidan O'Connell from the Raiders.

I got to watch him play a lot his rookie year since my dad is a Raiders fan and I think he's got starter potential.

If nothing else he can be a solid backup/bridge QB until we draft a QB in a couple years.

He looks like he's one smart comment away from snatching up some poor BOA vendor by the collar and demanding a liter 'a cola.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

One guy I wouldn't mind us taking a flyer on for a late round pick is Aidan O'Connell from the Raiders.

I got to watch him play a lot his rookie year since my dad is a Raiders fan and I think he's got starter potential.

If nothing else he can be a solid backup/bridge QB until we draft a QB in a couple years.

If any backup qb out there had any potential to be a starter they would be a starter already. A backup is a backup for a reason.  They are the last resort when the starter goes down. When the starter goes down for more then a few games their teams season is over. Looking for someone's backup as a future starter is a waste a time and energy. Also teams do not develop qbs outside of their starter. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

If any backup qb out there had any potential to be a starter they would be a starter already. A backup is a backup for a reason.  They are the last resort when the starter goes down. When the starter goes down for more then a few games their teams season is over. Looking for someone's backup as a future starter is a waste a time and energy. Also teams do not develop qbs outside of their starter. 

Well obviously we'd need to draft our guy long-term, but this upcoming QB class isn't looking very good so it's likely going to be at least 2027 before we draft a QB early again.

It's either try to find a decent bridge QB or stick it out with Bryce. I don't know of any other options.

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Well obviously we'd need to draft our guy long-term, but this upcoming QB class isn't looking very good so it's likely going to be at least 2027 before we draft a QB early again.

It's either try to find a decent bridge QB or stick it out with Bryce. I don't know of any other options.

They will stick it out with who they have now this season. They have no other choice. Next year this group may not be here to select the next group of qb's to battle with.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

They will stick it out with who they have now this season. They have no other choice. Next year this group may not be here to select the next group of qb's to battle with.

Maybe, but we're still left with the same choices regardless of who is making them.

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If any backup qb out there had any potential to be a starter they would be a starter already. A backup is a backup for a reason.  They are the last resort when the starter goes down. When the starter goes down for more then a few games their teams season is over. Looking for someone's backup as a future starter is a waste a time and energy. Also teams do not develop qbs outside of their starter. 

I'm glad we didn't take that approach going into '03.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Maybe, but we're still left with the same choices regardless of who is making them.

I'm not out on this qb class as others are. There's at least 3 guys who have a shot in the nfl. It doesn't mean I see them as a sure thing but this class is better than the Pickett draft class. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not out on this qb class as others are. There's at least 3 guys who have a shot in the nfl. It doesn't mean I see them as a sure thing but this class is better than the Pickett draft class. 

True but that's not saying much.

I haven't seen anyone who jumps off the screen at QB.

Mendoza has his moments but rarely has to beyond his first read.

Sellers is a physical freak, but hasn't played like it.

Nussmeier looks good against college defenses but doesn't exactly tick all the physical boxes himself. A taller Bryce Young?

Dante Moore looks like a good college QB surrounded by a lot of talent who will be overwhelmed in the pros.

Drew Allar... very similar to Sellers. Has the physical tools but doesn't always play like it.

Carson Beck is erratic as hell, even if he also has many of the traits you look for.

If I HAD to use a 1st round pick on one of those guys it's going to be Sellers just based off physical traits but he's not remotely ready to start as a rookie and I'm fairly convinced he's going to end up returning to school, though not necessarily South Carolina.

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

True but that's not saying much.

I haven't seen anyone who jumps off the screen at QB.

Mendoza has his moments but rarely has to beyond his first read.

Sellers is a physical freak, but hasn't played like it.

Nussmeier looks good against college defenses but doesn't exactly tick all the physical boxes himself. A taller Bryce Young?

Dante Moore looks like a good college QB surrounded by a lot of talent who will be overwhelmed in the pros.

Drew Allar... very similar to Sellers. Has the physical tools but doesn't always play like it.

Carson Beck is erratic as hell, even if he also has many of the traits you look for.

If I HAD to use a 1st round pick on one of those guys it's going to be Sellers just based off physical traits but he's not remotely ready to start as a rookie and I'm fairly convinced he's going to end up returning to school, though not necessarily South Carolina.

I don't view physical traits as the number one thing to start with. How they play against the best competition in college weighs more than anything. Then you look at the physical attributes that will help them succeed at the next level. Thats where Young should have been removed from our board.

Its like reading applications before you decide who to interview. If the basic qualifications (great production against tough competition) are met then you weed out those that do meet other criteria (height, weight, arm strength) for success going forward. 

[Jay Roosevelt]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I don't view physical traits as the number one thing to start with. How they play against the best competition in college weighs more than anything. Then you look at the physical attributes that will help them succeed at the next level. Thats where Young should have been removed from our board.

Its like reading applications before you decide who to interview. If the basic qualifications (great production against tough competition) are met then you weed out those that do meet other criteria (height, weight, arm strength) for success going forward. 

And again, which current QB prospects really fit that criteria? I'd love for there to be a QB worth taking, but I'm just not seeing it right now.

[frankw]

Just draft a QB next year that actually has real physical traits and an NFL arm and keep it pushing. This season is a wash all we're going for now is whatever level of development we can gain which probably won't be much.

[Bear Hands]

We’re probably destined to roll with someone like Jarrett Stidham for a 2026 transitional season while taking a QB in R2-3. Possibly under a new HC (it’s a toss up right now)

[Jay Roosevelt]

I will say, I do like John Mateer a lot. But with his surgery and missing so much time I don't know what his draft stock might end up looking like or if he will even enter the draft at all.

But he's about the only QB I'd consider with a top-10 pick next year.