Is Canales digging his own grave?

[strato]

Just now, electro's horse said:

Asking a “leadership council” if he can bench Chuba is the most chickenshit thing that’s happened to the panthers franchise since cam didn’t dive on the ball. 

 

I might need to go read about that.

The way you frame it here is that he basically sent those guys off to debate that question. Which I would agree is not an approach that I would value. 

3 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

My problem with most of the last few regimes is their dogged determination to keep doing what isnt working.

All those years ago when I played ball through high school my coaches were all of the mold of "just out execute your opponent and it doesnt matter if they know what youre going to do".  I get the sense thats what our last few head coaches believed - if we would just play our game better, it wouldnt matter what the other guys did. Yeah they stopped that B Gap run 7 times but if we do it better on attempt 8...

 

There is validity to the approach but you have to have the players to do it with. If you don’t they will stop you. 
You know you have a great team if they know what,s coming and still can’t stop it. 

[electro's horse]

Dave Canales has admitted he doesn’t have final roster decisions on the defense. 

now he needs to talk to the “leadership council” to change starting running backs. 

what the fug are we doing here 

[strato]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Why do people keep saying this.

youre talking about him like he was forced to take this job at gunpoint.

he chose to come to Carolina knowing the situation with young. 

he doesn’t get to use his shitty qb as an excuse when he knowingly took the job to fix the shitty qb and failed. 

if you choose to marry a crazy bitch because her parents are rich, knowing she’s a crazy bitch, you don’t get to blame your drinking on the crazy bitch you chose to marry. 

You do it because the hope or maybe the assurance that if the player is unfixable you don’t get thrown out with him. 

Otherwise who ever looks at a Bryce Young and takes that job?

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

4 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

He most definitely is. Only reason there are any other issues is due to injuries depleting depth that was there. 

our main issue is that our coaches are too pussy and/or too dumb in playing the right players and how to handle rotations, play calling, and situational awarenesses

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He's not playing to win the game.  He's playing to run his offense.

This is the way I view it completely. 

He. Stinks.

[Captroop]

We're still in the wild card race. 

Shockingly, our division is still in reach.

We lost to the team that was one game away from the Super Bowl. 

Starting Andy Dalton as our backup QB.

 

I think it's safe to say that despite how bleak our loss was this week, for me, and probably others, at this point in the season we're exceeding expectations.

We definitely run the risk of coming back down to Earth HARD. But all things considered, this is hardly the time to start winding up the coaching carousel.

[electro's horse]

12 minutes ago, strato said:

You do it because the hope or maybe the assurance that if the player is unfixable you don’t get thrown out with him. 

Otherwise who ever looks at a Bryce Young and takes that job?

poo in one hand, hope in the other 

Canales can’t even change the running back. Hes a fuging bitch. 

[electro's horse]

Just now, Captroop said:

We're still in the wild card race. 

Who cares 

[PadresPanthersFan]

I want to like dc and I want him to win and be a good hc but things keep springing up that make me doubt. 

Keeping evero, the whole Rico vs Hubbard, nick f ing Scott, not benching Dalton, not bringing in qb competition,  half of the players on d, the piss poor play calling. The last draft has the looks of a homerun but outside of that there are way more things I can ding him on than congratulate him for

[PNW_PantherMan]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

This team could use a coach like Herm

[Pantherxtreme]

He certainly didn't do Chuba any favors and made the situation more awkward and dramatic than it had to be.

Coming off back to back games averaging close to 200 yards rushing you just dont put a hault to that, you continue to ride the hot hand and the chemistry Rico and the Oline had going in the run game.

Chuba was coming off injury perfect excuse to ease him back into the game plan with spot duty because unless he was going to come in gashing people the way Rico had been doing (which he wasn't doing before his injury) you're setting him up to face what he's facing now. because Rico yards per carry hasn't dropped the only thing has dropped is his production due to coaches decision. 

Of course fans are going have the pitchfork outs we finally have an offense worth watching for two weeks after who knows how many seasons and then Canales comes back with the same ole, same ole of 3 and outs with a top 5 running back on the bench.

If Chuba started showing some juice in relief/spot duty of Rico then you could transition to a dual headed attack but just declaring it  and sticking to it with no results is ridiculous. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pantherxtreme

[thennek]

I am not sure the Panthers can do any better than Canales as long as Tepper is the owner. I am convinced he is still meddling and influencing football decisions. Frank confirmed this was happening during his brief stint and I see no reason to believe it has stopped. 
Tepper can fire and hire as many coaches as he wants but the results will be the same. He is the problem, as no competent coach or GM wants to work with him so all we get is leftovers. 

[strato]

10 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

poo in one hand, hope in the other 

Canales can’t even change the running back. Hes a fuging bitch. 

That answers nothing above. I get it you hate him. 

[electro's horse]

26 minutes ago, strato said:

That answers nothing above. I get it you hate him. 

there’s nothing to answer. You’re just wish casting

A low experience coordinator that no one else interviewed was offered a job he’s not qualified for that no one else wanted and he took it because you don’t turn down that kind of money and has predictably been a total disaster. 

You don’t need to make up circumstances around this. It’s obvious. he was a bad decision when he was hired and he’s a bad coach now. The circumstances of the team he agreed to coach don’t mitigate that reality. 

how many times is a head coach allowed to get blown out by four touchdowns before you cut bait on him? What’s your number?